I’ve been maintaining my weight for a while now but lately it’s been rising so I’ve adjusted calories accordingly, but I’m curious what you see as an acceptable “fluctuation” when you’re maintaining?

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    I’ve never tried this myself because I would miss out on a lot of other nutrients, but I imagine I would be hungry again pretty soon afterwards.

    This has not been my experience. People doing keto are often suggested to eat butter as a snack to differentiate between hunger and cravings.

    Fats are very easy to overeat though.

    Only in the context of carbohydrates. Try eating a stick of butter after you are full. Consider a steak, which is just fat and protein… it starts delicious and wonderful, but quite rapidly it loses its luster and by the end eating the last few pieces can be quite a chore… this is how all food should be, and it can be, in the absence of carbohydrates.

    So you could either consider ATP synthesis as anabolism, making this claim a non-sequitur (i.e. how does saying “carbs can be used to move muscle” support the claim of “low carbs will help you lose fat”?), or it’s not anabolism, in which case you’re just plain wrong.

    Insulin drives fat storage, eating while insulin is high will encourage significant fat accretion.

    But it is a useful way of measuring what we do use for the purposes of weight control. It’s trivial to verify for yourself. Just count the Calories in everything you eat and see that your weight gains and losses are very closely tied to that number.

    Agreed, its strictly true. But its not clinically helpful. Controlling hunger via reducing insulin and eating protein and fat to satiety is far more clinically effective.

    justifies your stance that no one should have to count Calories.

    People can count calories and see success, but its unnecessary if they are not eating carbohydrates - as the body will self regulate appropriately with hunger and satiety signals. You can eat a gram of uranium, and get millions of calories, but its not useful to the body. We are not bomb calorimeters.

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      I guess I can’t really contest it if you say a cup of olive oil would keep you full. That’s not something I’m willing to try for myself. I’m curious about this butter trick you mention though. I can’t find anything about it.

      Consider a steak, which is just fat and protein… it starts delicious and wonderful, but quite rapidly it loses its luster and by the end eating the last few pieces can be quite a chore… this is how all food should be, and it can be, in the absence of carbohydrates.

      My stomach capacity for a good steak or plain rice is approximately the same for both as measured by Calorie content. Though, combing both does allow me to eat more in total, so I guess maybe that’s what you’re trying to say. In any case, I’m not saying you’re wrong on this point. My criticism was about your comment consisting of a bunch of disjoint statements under the guise of being supporting sentences.

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        I can’t really contest it if you say a cup of olive oil would keep you full.

        I’m not saying that. I really don’t recommend drinking olive oil as food. Fat and protein should be consumed in a solid form

        The butter trick is easy to test, next time your hungry just “think” about eating a bit of butter - does it sound like a good idea? If yes, your hungry. If no, your craving something like carbs or sugar.

        My criticism was about your comment consisting of a bunch of disjoint statements under the guise of being supporting sentences.

        I’ll work on improving my use of English.