Personally I arrive at opposing NATO because I’m opposed to all wars but the class war as it were. It’s not out of a sense of wanting to ‘shield’ Russia.
I live in the US and thus I oppose its use of military force around the world, if I was back in Russia I would still be opposed to the war on general principle, with all of the associated political risks.
I’m not sure I see what the ‘trap’ is in your line of thought, but if you’re insisting that lack of support for NATO as a citizen in a NATO country is somehow a position that people are tricked into, I think you may be misunderstanding the situation.
re hexbear:
but, well… we know it’s already way past critical support.
I’m not sure they’re as in the tank for Putin as you say, I’m subbed to most if not all of their comms and I will routinely come across things like this it’s pretty clearly shitting on the CPRF for going along with SMO, the emoji is imparting ‘lenin would have shot everyone in this room’, I have to imagine that includes Putin. One of their news mods is said ‘If you’re a communist party and Putin is praising you, you’re not a communist party.’
The ghost of that second international will still haunt us for a long time…
on the anarchist end it’s the manifesto of the sixteen vs the anti-war manifesto, the latter is a banger I recommend it:
The misfortune of the peoples, who were nevertheless all deeply committed to peace, is that they trusted in the State with its scheming diplomats, in democracy and in the political parties (even the opposition parties, like the parliamentary socialists) to avert war. That trust was deliberately abused and continues to be abused when those in government, with the help of their whole press, persuade their respective peoples that this war is a war of liberation.
re campism:
Personally I arrive at opposing NATO because I’m opposed to all wars but the class war as it were. It’s not out of a sense of wanting to ‘shield’ Russia.
I live in the US and thus I oppose its use of military force around the world, if I was back in Russia I would still be opposed to the war on general principle, with all of the associated political risks.
I’m not sure I see what the ‘trap’ is in your line of thought, but if you’re insisting that lack of support for NATO as a citizen in a NATO country is somehow a position that people are tricked into, I think you may be misunderstanding the situation.
re hexbear:
I’m not sure they’re as in the tank for Putin as you say, I’m subbed to most if not all of their comms and I will routinely come across things like this it’s pretty clearly shitting on the CPRF for going along with SMO, the
emoji is imparting ‘lenin would have shot everyone in this room’, I have to imagine that includes Putin. One of their news mods is said ‘If you’re a communist party and Putin is praising you, you’re not a communist party.’
on the anarchist end it’s the manifesto of the sixteen vs the anti-war manifesto, the latter is a banger I recommend it: