• Successful_Try543@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    The damage is calculaded like this, because those who’ve used the streaming service to watch a movie would have needed to purchase some form of a licence to do so legally. It’s not a question of whether they would have had the money or the willing to do so. It’s the same like someone would sneak into a cinema and watch a movie. They usually would be required to purchase a ticket to do so. The damage is not a question of whether they would have had the money for that or wouldn’t have went to the cinema if purchasing a ticket was necessary.

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      12 hours ago

      This is mainly an issue of the terms damage and loss being overloaded with different meanings.

      If the act of unlicensed access comes at no distribution or access cost to the creator and publisher, then it’s a different kind of damage than if you damage or steal physical property. Stealing from the official distribution channel may incur cost.

      All of these are unrelated to production cost and right to [controlled] distribution.

      When a car is stolen from a car dealership, their property is lost. They can no longer sell it. Digital content however, is copyable and distributable at marginal cost, whether it is accessed in other instances without a license or not.

      This discrepancy is what leads to these very different views and comments of damage not being real damage. They have not “lost” anything after all. They still own the product and the rights. You can argue about forms of loss, but it’s undeniable that they still have these.

    • ook@discuss.tchncs.de
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      17 hours ago

      You basically wrote what I did, but from a different viewpoint.

      Your example with the cinema is also a typical apple and oranges example comparing a digital distribution with a physical service. Yes, when you sneak into a cinema the cinema provider is losing revenue because you take a seat someone else might have paid for. So at some point the cinema is full and cannot accommodate any more people that paid which would prompt the provider to check tickets.

      There is no such scenario for digital distribution. You are not taking anyone’s space. The provider can sell their product infinitely often. You even already pay for the traffic you cause with your internet connection. It is a very different situation but is always equated because online piracy is of course the worst problem ever.

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        13 hours ago

        There is no such scenario for digital distribution.

        The whole point it that content has been consumed without purchasing a proper licence.