• Bob@feddit.org
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    4 months ago

    Tesla Model Y AWD LR

    • Boot space: 9 + 1 banana boxes/420 L (ADAC)
    • Power: 384 hp
    • Range: 568 km
    • Price: 535 813 NOK

    KIA EV6 AWD LR

    • Boot space: 9 banana boxes
    • Power: 325 hp
    • Range: 546 km
    • Price: 519 900 NOK

    VW ID.4 GTX Businessline

    • Boot space: 9 banana boxes /455 L (ADAC)
    • Power: 340 hp
    • Range: 563 km
    • Price: 524 272 NOK

    Skoda Elroq RS

    • Boot space: 8 banana boxes/470 L (manufacturer says so)
    • Power: 335 hp
    • Range: 547 km
    • Price: 486 700 NOK

    BMW i4 xDrive40

    • Boot space: 5 banana boxes/470 L (manufacturer says so)
    • Power: 400 hp
    • Range: 533 km
    • Price: 617 000 NOK

    Software is subjective, I guess. But in my opinion always-on heavy regenerative braking, no indicator stalk, shift buttons in the ceiling, and a complete lack of other buttons, are pretty glaring issues. The Tesla is in no way leaps and bounds ahead of the competition.

    By buying a Tesla, you are choosing to support a company that actively works against the rules-based international order, and against the interests of the country you live in. You are supporting them with hundreds of thousands of kroner. Our position as consumers is the only way we can effect change in today’s world, and by supporting Tesla you are wasting it.

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      4 months ago

      It looks like you used ChatGPT here because some of these are incorrect. Especially the boot space for the Tesla. It appears that ChatGPT cited this but Tesla very clearly provides measurements for the boot with the rear seats up: 822L. 938 if we include the frunk. Adac.de is off by 123%. Further, banana boxes are rectangular. They don’t measure the actual capacity of a boot. Most people aren’t strictly loading their boot with rectangular suitcases. We load them up with things like groceries, jackets, golf clubs, and duffel bags. I’m also confused as to why you would use hp instead of 0-100kph. Because of the very different technologies used in these cars, hp doesn’t accurately represent performance. I updated your table with the correct info:

      Tesla Model Y AWD LR

      Boot space: 822 L + frunk 116 L

      0-100kmh: 4.8s

      Range: 586 km

      Price: 535 813 NOK

      KIA EV6 AWD LR

      Boot space: 490 L (480 L with premium sound) + frunk 20 L

      0-100kmh: 5.2s

      Range: 546 km

      Price: 519 900 NOK

      VW ID.4 GTX Businessline

      Boot space: 543 L (no frunk)

      0-100kmh: 5.4s

      Range: 505 km

      Price: 524 272 NOK

      Skoda Elroq RS

      Boot space: 470 L (no frunk)

      0-100kmh: 5.4s

      Range: 547 km

      Price: 486 700 NOK

      BMW i4 xDrive40

      Boot space: 470 L (hatch; no frunk)

      0-100kmh 5.1s

      Range: 533 km

      Price: 617 000 NOK

      These are some fairly large differences. Especially in terms of boot space, which is quite important for families.

      But in my opinion always-on heavy regenerative braking, no indicator stalk, shift buttons in the ceiling, and a complete lack of other buttons, are pretty glaring issues.

      The Model Y has always retained the indicator and shift stalks. However I would also prefer more physical buttons.

      By buying a Tesla, you are choosing to support a company that actively works against the rules-based international order, and against the interests of the country you live in. You are supporting them with hundreds of thousands of kroner. Our position as consumers is the only way we can effect change in today’s world, and by supporting Tesla you are wasting it.

      All of the car companies above have been involved in immoral and illegal activities. Far worse than Tesla, including child labour, slave labour, Nazi collaboration, and Dieselgate. If you wish for people to not purchase from companies which have acted immorally or illegal, which ones do you suggest? Personally, I wish for companies to become more competitive. Shaming people for buying better products doesn’t really work. What works is producing better products.