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I\ don\'t\ know\ what\ you\ mean,\ I\'ve\ never\ encountered\ any\ annoyances.
'I don\'t know what you mean, I\‘ve never encountered any annoyances.’
Single quotes don’t allow any escaping in shell, you need
'I don'\''t know what you mean, I'\''ve never encountered any annoyances'Or, in Zsh with
setopt rcquotes:'I don''t know what you mean, I''ve never encountered any annoyances'Oh right, good catch. That’s me shell scripting while in a meeting. 🫠
Microsoft intentionally made programs install to C:\Program Files on Windows 95+ to force programmers to deal with spaces in filenames.
Someone make one of those “statements made by the utterly deranged” memes about it, please and thank you.
what is even more funny about this is that the name of that directory used to be locale-dependent, so in sweden it was just called “Program”, completely nullifying that idea.
C:\Program Files
C:\Program Files (x86)
C:\ProgramData
C:\PROGRA~1
The fucking parenthetical x86 absolutely kills me. I don’t normally wish dick cancer on people,
It’s only localised in the file explorer. The actual folder name is always Program Files.
Only since vista, it used to be localized.
what about placeholders/variables like %localappdata%, %windir%, %programfiles%?
I can only assume these always existed, otherwise it would have been a nightmare for everyone.
nope, that’s an NT thing
Excel used to have, and I think it still has, localised function names.
Makes it a nightmare to look up stuff on the Internet.
the entirety of office has localised hotkeys. whaddayamean ^F is “search”? it’s for fat text!
Still does. Commas or semicolons as separators in functions differ at least. It fucking sucks.
Really? That is absolute insanity
No this is just clever
I’ve recently learned that in Linux, you can use emois in filenames. I died a
littlelot inside when I learned that.On Linux file systems you can use any character except NULL, and / is a reserved character.
E.g. on ext-4 “All characters and character sequences permitted, except for NULL (‘\0’), ‘/’, and the special file names “.” and “…” which are reserved for indicating (respectively) current and parent directories.”
I once accidentally created a file with a newline character in it… it was pretty tricky to fix from command line.
Arrest this person
This is absolutely haram
it was on accident, habibi, I swear 😁. I messed up some cmake code for preprocessing .txt ascii sprites into constants and accidentally created this abomination
I once made a script to delete .o, .lib, and .so files from my huge dev folder to free up space on my home partition.
It did not go as planned.
O no, o no no no
This is why you shouldn’t parse
lsoutput btw. Usefindandreadinstead
I actually did this a lot on classic Mac OS. Intentionally.
The reason was that you could put a carriage return as the first character of a file, and it would sort above everything else by name while otherwise being invisible. You just had to copy the carriage return from a text editor and then paste it into the rename field in the Finder.
Since OS X / macOS can still read classic Mac HFS+ volumes, you can indeed still have carriage returns in file names on modern Macs. I don’t think you can create them on modern macOS, though. At least not in the Finder or with common Terminal commands.
I created a file with backspace in name, it was hard to understand why filename doesn’t match
Did you not just use tab? That’s the usual method of dealing with weird characters in filenames that I’ve found
Too bad when there’s multiple files starting with and consisting mostly of e.g. kanji (when on a Latin keyboard).
With the right shell, you can just press tab multiple times to cycle through the possible completions.
So … is allowed, or all whitespace, or Zalgo text.
I mean, on the one hand, I guess why be restrictive, but on the other I feel like requiring something that looks like language somehow might be a good idea to avoid edge cases and attacks.
You can have new lines in your file names. YSAP has a good video/playlist about how to deal with these and many more.
could you have
..? I assume most terminals would just spell out.\x200b.?Or use a hair space so it looks almost the same. Or … but you’ve added the right-to-left unicode character. I’m guessing there’s something that looks a lot like a period, too.
If ext4 doesn’t include restrictions terminals probably should.
In filenames? AMATEURS! Use obscure Unicode in your passphrases for maximum security. Ctrl-Shift-U, enter arbitrary code point, bam! 🦊 Works even better with a Compose key and a nice, chonky
.XComposefile to throw some gr∑∑k letters around, for instance, like some confused script kiddie. :)On topic: There are multiple variants of spaces in Unicode. You’re welcome, and now go and create something utterly deranged with that information.
I already deal far too much with trying to handle dumb fucking typos in employee data, and trying to turn human names into valid email addresses.
The first time I encounter something like this in data from another department there will be a body. It will not be found.
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Some grSSk letters?
unix filenames are just string of bytes, the operating system does not interpret it in anyway. this is a much saner approach compared to Windows where language settings can change file system behavior.
the operating system does not interpret it in anyway.
*in any_way. ;)
⏰️.🪵
Same for Windows (11): I just renamed a file to an apple emoji
I’m just gonna pretend I didn’t hear that.
You can, but I downloaded some music the other day and I was trying to put the files onto my phone using KDE Connect, and I couldn’t understand why is wasn’t working until I got rid of the star emoji in the filenames. So I think Graphene/Android might still struggle with it.
It’s all just Unicode
You can have emoji as your WiFi network name too
Kinda interesting to see what older devices do when faced with such a network
What about an emoji only wifi password?
not sure why the default behavior is this:
file\ name\ with\ a\ bunch\ of\ spacesinstead of this:
"file name with a bunch of spaces"but you can just press
"before pressing tab to auto-complete, and it will use the 2nd formDon’t try svelte kit. This is pseudocode but it’s valid. The only symbol show here that is not real is the / that I’ve placed at the end of folder to show that they are folders. There are other special cases
routes/ +page.ts (admin)/ +page.ts [user=uuid]/ [[community]]/ +page.ts posts/ [...postIds@]/ +page.tssveltekit is beautiful (thanks for spreading the word)
Im trying it out yet. It seems fun, the tutorial is amazing. I don’t think I’d want to do large enterprise projects with it
Have you noticed issues that you think would arrise at scale, etc for an enterprise project?
I’m using it for a small/medium sized project and it’s great and has not got in the way once. Wondering how you feel, since I don’t have experience with much enterprise code.
Oh. No. You win. Mine is a gut feeling that modeling all routes with folders would become a paid. To navigate and manage, while you have actual experience
I very intentionally have all my code in
Personal Projects 🥰andWork Projects 🏦directories so I can find bugs in the handling of file paths.the struggle between spaces in filenames look cute and oh fuck what’s the code to reference a space in a filename in terminal?
Just put the whole thing in quotes. You might have to escape extra sets of quotes, usually with a backslash.
Or you can also put a
\in front of the spaceIf you intend on using that with tab completions, you will have extra work to do.
Some shells put the path in quotes automatically as you attempt to complete anything with spaces in it.
Yeah, just need to set it up correctly.
Are you typing the whole filename by hand? Tab expansion exists, you know?
If it fucking works…
Sometimes it does. But not always.
Zsh changed my life, but I still hate escape chars in my command lines for readability reasons
smells like skill issue tbh
tools which cant handle being installed/run on directories with spaces are so annoying
tools which cant handle being installed/run on directories with spaces are unacceptably common
You are clearly not a command line user :)
I vaguely remember
zshin Manjaro (by default) having a tab completion that automatically added the slashes.
Never set it up myself though.But I really hate having to worry about quoting my file variables in scripts.
So much, that after a certain complexity, I just give up the script and make the thing in C++.
Oh, and if I make a script that doesn’t handle file names properly (because it’s not required in that specific use case), I make sure to delete it after use, to prevent mistaken use later, which would otherwise cause more headache than just having to rewrite a script.
“_” to the rescue
I still use spaces
agreed, “still worth it”
I do, however, tend to keep spaces out of my folder names so i can just use quotes at the end.
/Images/Halloween/Projections/“Creepy Crawlies.mp4”
Now I use lowercase and underscores everywhere.
Hyphens > underscores for filenames because all web standards prefer hyphens so if you ever want to network your files its a much smoother experience!
I’m a big fan of PascalCase. ThisIsAGreatFilename.odt
My work has me working with Matlab Simulink paths, which may (and sometimes actually do) contain newlines.
Oh\ come\ on,\ it\'s\ not\ that\ badSome shells enclose those types of files within inverted commas. Such that:
> ls file\ name.mdis instead
> ls 'file name.md'(I use fish)
“inverted commas”? single quotes?
Floating commas
In dutch I’ve heard them be called flying commas unapologetically (vliegende comma’s — ironically has one in it because many plurals need it, it doesn’t mark possession)
Yes, I am a weird english.
I tried to parse the first one but got all confused because there’s no closing single quote.
