• MrNesser@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The imaginary money you invested in gold is worthless if civilization collapsed, so it’s in the rich person’s interests to keep things going so they can pull that investment back.

    It’s more likely we are heading to another US recession, hopefully not as bad as the 1930s

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      2 months ago

      If only there was a digital version of gold, that had a permanent record of everyone’s ownership right back to the first nugget of gold, that would be untouchable/secure in a collapse/near collapse scenario. Something that you could bring with you wherever you go in the world, yet no need to physically bring anything with you.

      Man I would be investing in that so hard right now.

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        2 months ago

        That thing sounds like it needs a functioning internet and communications system. If society collapses I wouldn’t bet on the blockchain being usable.

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          2 months ago

          And gold? A huge percentage of which people hold non-physically?

          It’s almost like you can come up with arguments that NOTHING is safe without a functioning internet and communications system.

          So…what’s the difference here?

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            2 months ago

            I have gold and can transport it. We traded gold before we had an international banking structure. We don’t need electricity or the internet for the trade in gold.

            Crypto has no utility. It cannot be transported as it isn’t a physical asset. It cannot be used for any other purpose eg you can’t make a hat out of BTC or ETH. Gold and crypto are not the same when it comes to their usability as a currency.

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        2 months ago

        You mean Bitcoin, the imaginary thing that literally could be destroyed at any moment in time and the rich people use to manipulate their prices and game more money all the time? You mean that type of thing? Honestly gold is way better than investing in that.

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          2 months ago

          Yes lol. But I’m way past the point that people’s opinions of it have any bearing on my decisions.

          I’ve had this conversation a million times. You don’t understand Bitcoin, and that’s ok, I don’t mean it as an insult… it’s complicated. I can say that with 100% certainty based on your comments. This just means that there is more for me, at a cheaper price.

          Yes there is manipulation going on, you’re not wrong. But where you are veering off track is where you throw out the concept because of it.

          Money is manupulated. Constantly. That’s what happens with money. Bitcoin is no different.

          Do you understand that Bitcoin has been around for 16 years, has never had an error or security breach (all cases of losing money are due to malicious actors or careless users), can send billions of dollars across the world for literal pennies, has over a TRILLUON dollars of market cap.

          Please don’t get stuck in the early days mindset. If Bitcoin was “destroyable” it would have happened long ago, as the threat it poses to fiat based sovereign currencies is huge.

          I know I’m not changing any minds, but you can’t say you didn’t have the opportunity. You’re standing in your own way.

          Gold is good to invest in too now though! No shade on anyone who does that, just missing a better opportunity.

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            2 months ago

            If this is really your perspective then tone down the condescension. BTC is only viable due to the poor policies of the Trump administration.

            Gold has utility. BTC has no usability beyond being a cryptocurrency. I can make things with gold.

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              2 months ago

              Is there any value in being the hardest form of money in existence, objectively 🧐🧐🧐

              Edit: the condescension is helpful in the long run. People hate Bitcoin/hate people who invest in Bitcoin are very unlikely to invest in Bitcoin. Therefore more for me, again!

              • QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works
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                2 months ago

                Yes, it is durable, portable and compact. We can all agree on the fact you can make things with it.

                Is there any value in something that holds no real utility or real value?