I work on a hangar deck supervising aircraft maintenance. At each shift change, all toolboxes are inventoried and all tools are accounted for. If people regularly show up late, either the few who do show up on time are always responsible for doing the tool inventories (or any other shift change items) or the previous shift ends up having to stay later, which is just disrespectful to them and their time.
Where my wife works, the clinic opens at 8 and the shift starts at 8 for all but the opener, so if her coworkers don’t show up at 8, she’s having to manage the patients by herself. On occasion for special circumstances, that’s understandable. But as a general “meh, 10 minutes late is just as good,” definitely not.
Basically, if tasks are expected to be done specifically at the beginning of your shift, being late is unacceptable.
I’ve done jobs where I was legally not allowed to leave people unsupervised, so if my relief was late, I couldn’t go home. I feel like that’s also an exception to the ‘late is fine’ rule.
Doesn’t even need to be rotating shifts. I kind of work in construction (county archaeology) and if I am not there on time my boss has to wait for me to drive us to the site which in turn costs the construction company because they can only start working when we are finished
And I think that if there are no considerations in place to compensate me (no overtime is not enough, overtime is the bare minimum) in the event that I need to stay late; 10 minutes late is just fine.
Not the guy you asked, but I think overtime should be at least double pay and not 1.5 pay. It shouldn’t be cheaper to overwork a skeleton crew than it is to hire adequate staffing.
Idk, a 4 day work week for starters. If you’re asking specifically about what would be reasonable instead of overtime, I really can’t tell you. Being able to show up late after nights you work late would be a good start.
Depending on the work, I disagree.
I work on a hangar deck supervising aircraft maintenance. At each shift change, all toolboxes are inventoried and all tools are accounted for. If people regularly show up late, either the few who do show up on time are always responsible for doing the tool inventories (or any other shift change items) or the previous shift ends up having to stay later, which is just disrespectful to them and their time.
Where my wife works, the clinic opens at 8 and the shift starts at 8 for all but the opener, so if her coworkers don’t show up at 8, she’s having to manage the patients by herself. On occasion for special circumstances, that’s understandable. But as a general “meh, 10 minutes late is just as good,” definitely not.
Basically, if tasks are expected to be done specifically at the beginning of your shift, being late is unacceptable.
I’ve done jobs where I was legally not allowed to leave people unsupervised, so if my relief was late, I couldn’t go home. I feel like that’s also an exception to the ‘late is fine’ rule.
And generally the exceptions boil down to “you being late is affecting a fellow worker”.
Office jobs, which is most likely what these Gen z are referring to, is very different from rotating shift work
Oh, absolutely. That’s why I referred to it as being an exception to the rule.
Doesn’t even need to be rotating shifts. I kind of work in construction (county archaeology) and if I am not there on time my boss has to wait for me to drive us to the site which in turn costs the construction company because they can only start working when we are finished
And I think that if there are no considerations in place to compensate me (no overtime is not enough, overtime is the bare minimum) in the event that I need to stay late; 10 minutes late is just fine.
What is it that you think would be reasonable?
Not the guy you asked, but I think overtime should be at least double pay and not 1.5 pay. It shouldn’t be cheaper to overwork a skeleton crew than it is to hire adequate staffing.
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Idk, a 4 day work week for starters. If you’re asking specifically about what would be reasonable instead of overtime, I really can’t tell you. Being able to show up late after nights you work late would be a good start.