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      Right? All the time they joke about how Trump is fat and a closet gay. Can’t we just point out how much of a fascist he is and leave it at that?

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    .mlol

    Edit: me, a dumbass banned from Reddit from suggesting baseball commissioner rob manfred is a fascist who can barely operate this site. Sometimes I read the memes and laugh. Sometimes i just don’t get them. When I don’t understand the meme it’s usually from some .ml place. I don’t know what that means. Sorry if that makes you mad. But stupid people have rights too

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      Serious question: Why do y’all “hurt durr .ml” commenters even bother clicking on posts in our communities? Just block us.

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        because about 15% of your output is thought provoking and worthwhile, and because we would become insufferably braindead only absorbing only liberal content.

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          I’d say it’s a great deal higher than 15%, but if your goal is to get opposing viewpoints, why not swap to a more broadly federated instance?

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            Eh, I’ve not seen enough to get a statistically significant sample of .ml posts, but naturally you (commie) are going to find more of your own propaganda virtuous. As to instance hopping, I don’t use lemmy enough to make it worth researching basically, nor is my goal to get opposing views necessarily, some opposing views are so dogshit they aren’t worth the observation (i.e. anything J.D.Vance or Liz Truss has ever said). Tradmarxists have a consistent lense with which to view the world which leads to coherrent, if not always good, takes.

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              You’re missing out on most of us commies, though, who are on Grad and Hexbear. Plus, “virtue” has nothing to do with it, as a Marxist-Leninist I find Marxism-Leninism is by far the most consistent and coherent frame of analysis.

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    I’m almost sure I won’t get a serious answer but how is a joke about a specific person racist? It’s not about stereotypes, just similarity to a cartoon figure. I live in Europe and my head of state looks like Mr Burns (he really does). Is that racism against white people? What is the difference?

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      The difference is calling an Asian person yellow has a long and very racist precedent. It would be akin to saying Obama looks like Curious George because A) he fucking doesn’t and neither does Xi look like Winnie and B) there are similarly obvious racial connotations between saying a black man looks like a monkey and that an Asian man looks like a literally yellow character.

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        1. I stand corrected. This really is a serious answer. I finally understand the point.
        2. I still disagree.

        When I think Winnie the Pooh I think round face much more than yellow. Yellow is a very common color in cartoons. You can’t deny that. If that was the only reason, there’s a whole pool to chose from.

        Comparing black people with non human monkeys plays on the historical “scientific racism” that puts white people on the top and black people somewhere close to apes and Asians somewhere in between (depending on political affiliations). Nowhere in history has anyone put Asians close to bears. Even if the motivation is skin color (which I cannot disprove), the comparison to black people as monkeys falls flat.

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          When I think Winnie the Pooh I think round face much more than yellow.

          It doesn’t matter what you think. It what it’s received as. Also check out the first instance of the meme which has 💯 racist connotations. The one with xi and Obama compared to Winnie and… ? To which racial slur does the other character sound similar to?

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            From what I found, Obama was compared to T*gger. Sure, I see the rhyme and I’m sure it doesn’t matter what I think but I think this is far fetched. Other leaders were compared to other figures in the franchise. If you try to find something, you will. source

            Also, this seams to be huge within China. Chinese people mocking their leader and the state censors it. And when people mock their leader, I side with the people, not the leader.

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                Oh yes, this is the kind of reaction I expected from the start. Thank others that they proved me wrong.

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                  my understanding is that China’s population is largely satisfied with their government, and I can understand that since I’ve seen nothing but endless improvements year over year for the last ten years now, despite constant “china’s about to collapse” and other actually insane propaganda about China so yeah pardon me for thinking you should back up your claim that “calling xi jinping winnie the poo is huge in china (even though the GOVERNMENT will KILL YOU FOR IT)”