for years it has been a capitalistic idea that if a country has more people in it, it’s always better, because that means there’s more workers who can be exploited by companies.
that’s however changing right now, because capitalists are understanding that if there’s more people in the country, then you also need to feed and house them (or there’s social unrest) and that costs money. And if you can’t give people good jobs (like, due to automation there’s fewer jobs in total), then you’re essentially paying for people to sit around and do nothing, and that’s expensive and probably not in the capitalist interest. that’s why we’re seeing a change of narrative in social media rn, where there’s less talking of “we need more people, muh duh, declining birthrate” and more people saying “well, actually, a declining birthrate is a good thing” and such.
Jesus. Depopulation bad, no matter the system. Fewer people producing and paying taxes, bad. Now who takes care of the non-working population, the elderly, the plain stupid, the handicapped?
We have never had to figure a way around this issue, but it’s coming, fast and hard. Japan looks first up to bat, let’s see how they navigate it.
You sound like you have it all figured out (based on what you read on social media)! Love to hear your strategy! Governments all over the planet need your input. Be the hero we all need.
And what sort of skills are we talking about? It’s not like most of the migrants coming illegally now are doctors and surgeons. That’s a very very tiny portion and I’m willing to bet they are already much more likely to have avenues to come in legally. Highly skilled, university trained people aren’t the ones crowding the migrant boats.
Got an honest rebuttal? Anything said there was false? Love to hear it! (You got nothing and you know it. That’s why you changed the subject and picked a single word out to rebut.)
“Illegal” does not mean “criminal”. Running a stop sign is illegal. It does not make me a criminal.
Or do you have some fancy new word for people that cross borders in contradiction to law? Love to hear it!
Why bring skills? Why not train people?
Birthrate in Europe is declining
I thought automation was going to take all the jobs? Seems like one problem solves the other
Robots don’t pay taxes, health insurance or into the retirement fund that old people will need.
We’ve never ran out of jobs though
That’s exactly the point. Taxes aren’t the problem either. Unpaid taxes are.
for years it has been a capitalistic idea that if a country has more people in it, it’s always better, because that means there’s more workers who can be exploited by companies.
that’s however changing right now, because capitalists are understanding that if there’s more people in the country, then you also need to feed and house them (or there’s social unrest) and that costs money. And if you can’t give people good jobs (like, due to automation there’s fewer jobs in total), then you’re essentially paying for people to sit around and do nothing, and that’s expensive and probably not in the capitalist interest. that’s why we’re seeing a change of narrative in social media rn, where there’s less talking of “we need more people, muh duh, declining birthrate” and more people saying “well, actually, a declining birthrate is a good thing” and such.
Jesus. Depopulation bad, no matter the system. Fewer people producing and paying taxes, bad. Now who takes care of the non-working population, the elderly, the plain stupid, the handicapped?
We have never had to figure a way around this issue, but it’s coming, fast and hard. Japan looks first up to bat, let’s see how they navigate it.
You sound like you have it all figured out (based on what you read on social media)! Love to hear your strategy! Governments all over the planet need your input. Be the hero we all need.
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And have them demand to be paid? Sheesh.
And what sort of skills are we talking about? It’s not like most of the migrants coming illegally now are doctors and surgeons. That’s a very very tiny portion and I’m willing to bet they are already much more likely to have avenues to come in legally. Highly skilled, university trained people aren’t the ones crowding the migrant boats.
@Saapas
Been having a deep draught of the “illegals!!” Kool-Aid, have we?
Got an honest rebuttal? Anything said there was false? Love to hear it! (You got nothing and you know it. That’s why you changed the subject and picked a single word out to rebut.)
“Illegal” does not mean “criminal”. Running a stop sign is illegal. It does not make me a criminal.
Or do you have some fancy new word for people that cross borders in contradiction to law? Love to hear it!
I have no idea what you’re trying to say with this one tbh
I think it boils down to you being a dick
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Don’t you need skilled people to train others?
Hush, don’t disturb their xenophobia with rational thought