“Only a more federal Europe can cope with these challenges, ensuring the respect of our fundamental values and rights.(…) To this end, we support the creation of a renewed cross-partisan and inter-institutional pro-European coalition encompassing the most committed Member States in the European Council, the pro-European majority in the European and National Parliaments, the European Commission, and regional and local institutions, over and above the particular inertias of each institution, and the pro-European organized civil society. We call on them all to mobilize locally, nationally, and transnationally to support these requests for a more sovereign and democratic Union.”
This text is based on the declaration adopted by the relaunched Action Committee for the United States of Europe, 18 October 2025, Jean Monnet House, Houjarray/ Bazoches-sur-Guyonne, France
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NO !!!
Just look at USA and how the federal government is fucking up states under Trump. We do not need anything remotely like that shit in EU.
The way EU works is by cooperation, and it is far superior to how USA works with regard to respecting the individual countries.
Now Hungary and Slovakia are causing problems, and yes we need a way to limit the degree to which individual countries can continuously block EU politically, but going to the other extreme where the majority can just trample the rights of the minority is not the way.
EU is doing pretty damned well as it is. EU is effectively helping Ukraine despite the opposition from Hungary and Slovakia. And EU has moved very fast to respond to Trump on increasing European independence from USA on several fronts. These solutions are so good, that even Canada is participating in defense programs like SAFE, SDP and PESCO.
I’m all for EU working even closer together than we do now, but for fucks sake, we shouldn’t ruin a good thing by removing the best aspect of EU, namely that EU is based on cooperation and not on oppression by force of an ever shifting political majority.
Just look how bad it works in USA!! And then compare that to how EU has been steadily progressing in every aspect where USA is failing!!
A central EU government means that all the countries will be under that government, and it will be an enormous loss of self determination for all countries.
We can have a central military, controlled under the rules of EU by collaboration. Without having a central government.
How and why are you comparing this proposal to the US?!
There are many many federations in the world like, India Brazil, Switzerland etc.
It’s hardly going well there
Because USA is a federation with states that are about as big as European countries.
And state rights are systematically trumped by the federal government, and there is no reason to think the same won’t happen in EU over time, if we make a similar power structure with a central government.
Germany is also a federation, that’s their choice. Germany is based on being a country of one people originally. USA is not, and EU is also not a country of one people.
EU needs to respect the differences of the European countries to work, as a federation a federal government tend to push that aside if it becomes inconvenient.
A federation lacks balance of power between the states. Which is extremely obvious in USA.
Yes, true we must therefore build strong counter measures in this new European Federation. Its technically already a (co) Federation. But while we heed their mistakes we can prevent them.
A federation is generally supposed to protect state rights, problem is the power structure with a central government undermines that.
So I’m not sure it is possible to do except by NOT having a central government.
I also don’t see the need for a central government or even any advantage of it. And it most definitely isn’t necessary to achieve the political goals of more independence from USA. Since that is already working very well for EU with the current structure.
Of course there are solutions The principle of subsidiarity is one. Doing projects between states like you said are another for example. Problem is always that people be people, and they like power and money. And also there is little any "piece of paper" can do against dictators with guns. No piece of law will probably ever change that, I’m afraid.
Which is why centralizing power is generally a bad idea, making a federation a bad idea.