Pretty much. To me it’s such a “boutique” opinion to get outraged about how dangerous cats are…without any context or consideration for the context in which cats exist in the first place.
Like…it’s akin to a first world problem…a bunch of people saw a documentary about cats, felt that they had some measure of power to deal with cats…and haven’t considered any of the major problems created by routines that they participate in that actually mean something.
Yes, cats are terrible. But killing all the owls (another commenter brought this up) and putting up all the bird feeders that gave the cats so much easy “prey” is also worth considering.
The weird thing is the OP is about cats getting killed by coyotes…who are a much more dangerous pest species (in the contexts that they’re eating cats) than the cats.
I’m definitely overthinking this…but my angle is I’m a rural person who has livestock and rodent problems. A much different scenario to somebody who lives in an apartment and got radicalized by some amateur birder who hates cats because they don’t want to leave the city to see birds
lol. That’s right. We’re going to show up and terrorize you. Make you eat tofu and crunchy granola.
There are better, more effective and less expensive methods of control that don’t harm native life nearly as much. But given your a rural farmer raising livestock, you’re insistence cats aren’t that bad is rather telling. Though I’m uncertain as to why you’re unwilling to educate yourself about more modern controls… quite literally better for your bottom line.
This “educate yourself” nonsense is rich…given you didn’t engage with anything I said.
I’m an off grid subsistence farmer and an anti-materialist. It’s exactly because I “educated myself” that I’m out here. Cats are pretty fucking low on the list of harm the humans cause to the environment…they only exist as a “problem” in fake environments created where humans mass together.
You clearly haven’t studied anything, and frankly, your rhetoric is ignorant. Haven’t engaged with anything you’ve said is also a lie.
Go back and read my comments.
By the way, “fake environments” is a pretty fucking ignorant thing to be saying. Urban environments may be dominated by humanity, and transformed to fit us- for better or worse- they’re certainly real, and wild animals are evolving and adapting as they do.
You’re the one who sounds like a radicalized nut job. Keep talking I’m done listening to some one who equates me with white supremacists and Islamic jihadists. (Yes. That’s what “radicalized” means you asswipe.)
Lots of claims from you in here about being personally fine with allowing invasives into your area, but is there any researched evidence for it?
I never said I was “personally fine with invasive species” you’re projecting.
Looks like he’s just trying to steelman the things you say into something that is at least logically defensible.
Someone gets it
Pretty much. To me it’s such a “boutique” opinion to get outraged about how dangerous cats are…without any context or consideration for the context in which cats exist in the first place.
Like…it’s akin to a first world problem…a bunch of people saw a documentary about cats, felt that they had some measure of power to deal with cats…and haven’t considered any of the major problems created by routines that they participate in that actually mean something.
Yes, cats are terrible. But killing all the owls (another commenter brought this up) and putting up all the bird feeders that gave the cats so much easy “prey” is also worth considering.
The weird thing is the OP is about cats getting killed by coyotes…who are a much more dangerous pest species (in the contexts that they’re eating cats) than the cats.
I’m definitely overthinking this…but my angle is I’m a rural person who has livestock and rodent problems. A much different scenario to somebody who lives in an apartment and got radicalized by some amateur birder who hates cats because they don’t want to leave the city to see birds
Radicalized?
lol. That’s right. We’re going to show up and terrorize you. Make you eat tofu and crunchy granola.
There are better, more effective and less expensive methods of control that don’t harm native life nearly as much. But given your a rural farmer raising livestock, you’re insistence cats aren’t that bad is rather telling. Though I’m uncertain as to why you’re unwilling to educate yourself about more modern controls… quite literally better for your bottom line.
This “educate yourself” nonsense is rich…given you didn’t engage with anything I said.
I’m an off grid subsistence farmer and an anti-materialist. It’s exactly because I “educated myself” that I’m out here. Cats are pretty fucking low on the list of harm the humans cause to the environment…they only exist as a “problem” in fake environments created where humans mass together.
You clearly haven’t studied anything, and frankly, your rhetoric is ignorant. Haven’t engaged with anything you’ve said is also a lie.
Go back and read my comments.
By the way, “fake environments” is a pretty fucking ignorant thing to be saying. Urban environments may be dominated by humanity, and transformed to fit us- for better or worse- they’re certainly real, and wild animals are evolving and adapting as they do.
You’re the one who sounds like a radicalized nut job. Keep talking I’m done listening to some one who equates me with white supremacists and Islamic jihadists. (Yes. That’s what “radicalized” means you asswipe.)
Rhetoric? I wish my arguments were rhetorical.
Yes, if you live in city and you’re a materialist you live in a fake environment and you’re the problem. If you think that’s radical, pour it on me.
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