Not just uncaught murderers, there are a lot of people who have killed without legally being considered murderers.
People who killed people in accidents such as driving accidents or hunting accidents
People who killed in self defense
Soldiers who killed enemy soldiers
Executioners
Police officers who have killed on duty
Doctors and nurses who have made mistakes that accidentally killed patients
My ex-brother-in-law killed a family of four while DUI. The cops really screwed up the investigation so he was able to get the charges down to a minor moving violation. He never saw the inside of a jail.
When I was in high school a friend of a friend that I knew and had hung out with at a couple of times was a serial killer/rapist. He was one of the last people executed by that state.
Edit: My grandfather killed some Nazis in WW2. Several former coworkers killed people in the line of duty as soldiers. And, I worked as a records clerk at a nursing home, so I knew several doctors and nurses that had taken people off life support.
Went to high school with one.
I’ve met many people that have killed people. I didn’t think that was all that unusual. I know for sure two people I’ve met had killed people and there’s a whole bunch more that range from maybe to probably.
If you want to test this, start up conversations with the combat vets around you. You might not like the answers. That’s the vast majority of killers I’ve known (that I’ve known).
I work in healthcare, I’ve removed… so many people from life support. I often wonder if that’s, not the same, but…
I killed someone. It’s a called a dead name for a reason.
I wonder how many people who have themselves unknowingly caused a death, though some thoughtless or innocuous action. E.g. a discarded banana peel causes another person to later slip and fall with a fatal result.
the number of people who fall into this category through their use of stock LED headlights is non-zero
There’s an early Robot Chicken bit where he dies and asks silly questions to a book that can give him an answer like how many times did I listen to this song, or how much of a wall could my poop make. This question sounds like an interesting one to ask that book though. Actually I’d probably prefer not to know the chaotic randomness that is our lives but guess the lives part would be redundant at that point anyways.
I frequently have this thought, but take it one step further. Like, what if something I did, intentionally or not, greatly angers or pisses off someone that they get riled up, and it leads to them having a heart attack or lashing out in a way that causes them mortal harm?
Am I wholly responsible? No. But am I somewhat indirectly involved in their demise? Debatable. Yes, it gets very convoluted quickly, but it’s something that pops up in my head whenever I’ve got some idle time.
You are not responsible. Even if you argued with someone, you couldn’t have known what the outcome would be. Heart attack or they spent a bunch of time pissed and got in a fistfight later that resulted in someone’s death. You cannot control what they choose to do as long as your actions weren’t intentionally leading the other person to make those choices.
I have. I used to drink with someone who later killed someone while drinking.
Carl can fuck right off.
If you’re old enough you’ve definitely met someone who has done at least one murder. The question is intent as you’ve said: did you meet the drunk driver or the serial killer with 50 bodies in the basement who hasn’t been caught.
Also this applies to rape and that is far more common because it is simply less reported. One of your buddies might be a person that has straight up forced a person to have sex, maybe violently
Let’s not forget the more obvious, most veterans or military have killed people but. We usually don’t count them because they were killing “bad people” that just happened to be from a different country.
Yeah, no. Most members of most militaries haven’t directly killed anyone, even during wartime.
op straight up said that one bud but yes imperialism has a lot of murderers walking among us. Some of your zionist friends may have committed war crimes during their time in israel only to come back to home to 0 consequences and to be a fucking sociopath that, I dunno, goes on tinder dates without dropping the bomb that they sniped children that posed 0 threat because they’re fucking inhuman monsters
Most veterans and military have not killed anyone.
If you’re an engineer you’ve almost certainly contributed meaningfully to the death of someone.
I would think not if you’re a good engineer.
Even the code of Hammurabi had the death penalty for engineers that caused the death of another through poor design.
I’ve been in the army and I met guys there who took part in the Karfreitagsgefecht. They may or may not have killed some poor peasant with an AK but they for certain lost an important part of themselves.
You have definitely met someone who will kill themselves in the end. The rate is about 1/70 people in the US, and for every successful suicide there are 32 attempts of varying seriousness.
Had a buddy that couldn’t take the pain anymore and he had enough drink and anxiety meds one night and he just never woke up.
He made sure to turn on his music extra loud so it’d bother his neighbors so his cat would be okay and would be rehomed.
He was a good guy.
I’m four friends (three best friends at various points in life) and five or six acquaintances down, and I’m not 40 yet. I’ll have to agree with you.
I’ve met two people who took their own lives.
My mom shot herself with her husbands gun.
My moms father shot himself with his rifle.
Oh man, buddy, I’m so sorry for your loss. Those must have been hugely impactful to grieve. How are you doing?
Back in 2000 I had a close skydiving buddy. He was an excellent competitive pool player and taught me how to play and I even went on to win a few tournaments.
Our friendship came to an end when my girlfriend broke up with me and he was in bed with her the very next day.
Out of curiosity I tried looking up his name about a year ago. Turns out he was living with a woman down in Tampa, Fl. She had lost a child previously and was dealing with major psychological issues… He came home to find she had committed suicide… And he killed himself because of it. This all happened way back in 2013. So he’s been dead a long time.
Once met a man who confessed to me that he once hit and ran after striking a pedestrian with his car. He said he knew he killed them, but got away. It was fucking creepy as hell and couldn’t get away from the guy fast enough.
I’ve always wondered what drives people to such confessions. Not a killing of course, but I once met a dude and like 20 minutes later he was telling me about the literal scams he pulls. Shit like stealing old people’s passwords and whatnot to buy things for himself online. Very unambiguously illegal stuff. There was no context either, no lead up to that conversation. He just pulled the subject to that out of nowhere and started spilling the beans. One minute we were talking about wearing thinner gloves inside thicker gloves to keep our hands extra warm, and the next minute he was telling me how he tricks old people into submitting their email credentials into fake forms that he makes.
Yeah. There judicial/extrajudicial murders. There is different levels of manslaughter / accidental killings and such. Then there are the different degrees of murder. Even the mislabeling of products hsve brought “manslaughter” charges…
Anyway, yeah, many many people are either directly, or indirectly related/responsible for someone’s death.
In a sense, by levels of separation, I am indirectly responsible for a couple different people’s death…
Its not something that someone would put blame on me, I mean, I used to party with a lot of people, these people died while “partying”… not while around me, or because of me, but I didnt discourage the “partying” these folks were doing.
many many people are either directly, or indirectly related/responsible for someone’s death.
You want to get philosophical? Every mother and father are both directly responsible for the death of their children - even when that death is natural causes by old age, it wouldn’t have happened if they weren’t born.
