I’m new to Lemmy BTW.
Just want to make some friends
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NMS was so much fun but now when I log in I’m lost and confused and dont feel like I have the metal to start over.
I haven’t got past the early game where you’re scraping the map for technology to build a little wooden house.
There’s !nomanssky@lemmy.world but it’s not super active. You’re bound to find some fans in the general gaming communities like this one though.
I’m new to Lemmy BTW.
Welcome!
Thanks mate
I used to like No Man’s Sky. Then HG turned it into a beta test for their new game coming up and are either too lazy or too incompetent to fix the massive amount of long standing bugs and inconsistent shit
And their Reddit subs are full of kids that are willing to die on a hill- blindly defending HG as the be-all-end-all perfect example of competence in game development, all while ignoring the fact that they break shit constantly every time they release something they clearly never tested.
Or the boomers on Steam forums deflecting every criticism and trying to derail a thread by defending it as a “sandbox” game or not a bug, putting a post there is like controlling oversized children otherwise it devolves into dogpiling.
No.
The sameness of every planet was a major turnoff for me, plus the scale of the universe pretty much guarantees that you’ll never run into another player organically. The game is basically just Minecraft in space, except bad.
This is the reason why I don’t like procedurally-generated games. What’s the point of a big, massive universe, if it’s nothing but a bunch of generated sameness? Environments that weren’t handcrafted are a major turnoff for me. As someone who sees video games as art, it just feels soulless and empty. Like AI-generated art, except it’s an entire game.
You can run into players organically?? I thought you had to go into the Nexus for that
I don’t think you can, but the game is so boring that I never played long enough to find out. That’s the point I’m making. I’m not interested in a multiplayer game if there are no randoms to run into. Might as well just play an SP game.
So you don’t know, you just claim stuff
These days running into other players is far more common on the Expeditions due to all the players having the same goal and quest pathing, but you still bump into real people the closer you are to the galactic center in the regular game modes.
In terms of the ‘boring samey planets’ when was the last time you played? Because with the current terrain generation, water effects, gas giant systems, fully submerged worlds and new fauna/flora generation I’ve yet to find any planets that were identical.
Why is this even an issue for you? Just play it like SP without thinking about online factor. Maybe you will stumble upon some player after a month of playing, giving you a proper “holy fucking shit” moment, but realistically why even think about it and why turn it into a turnoff?
252.6 hours played, last played October 2024.
It’s enjoyable, but I’ve never been really engaged with it. There’s no progression, I don’t feel like my character, equipment, or ships are getting better even though I’m upgrading things. No planet is special, even though they’re all unique.
I think it would be better if you started out in a “settled” region with interesting factions, hand-designed planets, optional quest lines, etc. The infinite procedurally generated stuff would come into play if you push beyond the edges of known space.
Yeah and having an expansive universe with like three languages and three races of intelligent creatures, none of which seem to have any personalities just left it feeling shallow.
There’s no storyline in even the main story. It feels like a vast and lonely universe. I think procedural world generation has largely the same problem as generative AI: infinite slight varieties of responses, all of which are as bland as a HR seminar.
I’ve come to realize over time that I would prefer a completely linear story to games on the other extreme end.
What you’re suggesting sounds very interesting though, linear and more handcrafted content paired with procedural content to pad in the margins. Keep playing forever if you want to, but feel a sense of story and accomplishment in the main storyline.
Edit: that’s probably why the expeditions feel more worth playing… You bump into people because you’re all playing on the same planets, and the star systems you’re playing through are at least somewhat curated.
You didn’t engage with it but have spent the equivalent of 6 weeks of full time work in the game?
Maybe I’m setting my bar too low, but for a video game I expect to get 1hr enjoyment per dollar spent for me to consider a game ‘worthwhile.’
That aside, I agree it would be nice to have a more lived in feel in NMS, cities, a feel of civilization.
Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle.
Nah, it’s better than that but this statement still holds true for me - after several weeks I’ve seen everything (i.e. the patterns behind everything), and that’s when it got repetitive. All in all it’s a very nice game.
It’s not wrong, but the amount of random shit they added to it is enough to make a dive into it worth it to me, at least once in a while.
It’s certainly not deep, but there’s stuff to do, some room for creativity, and occasional funny weirdo creatures to encounter.
That’s been my problem with it as well. I still do like dusting it off every now and again. It has the best land to space travel transition of any game I’ve ever played.
Those takeoffs into space are bangers, you are right. Really cool mechanics and visuals, that alone is worth trying this game.
I have done everything but finding goddamn freighter modules to improve my stolen pirate ship. I cannot find the bastard things anywhere and there’s no mod to give them to me 😡
IIRC you can get them through the derelict freighter missions (which take forever and are kind of boring after the first one), or by blasting NPC freighters if you don’t care about reputation.
For the latter I’ve heard (but wasn’t willing to try myself to confirm) that you can just shoot the external cargo modules off of friendly freighters without them becoming mad and summoning sentinels.
Don’t know, I really would like to love the game. Everytime a new update drops I try to pick up the game, but time and time again I struggle to find a game loop which really grabs my attention and keeps me playing. I either fall back into ressource grinding or trying to unlock all expedition rewards. Both getting repetitive and boring after some hours of playing. It’s really a shame as I love the aesthetic and somehow casual feel of the game.
If you guys have any recommendations how to make the game enjoyable again, please feel free to drop a comment, would love to hear from you how you play NMS.
That was my experience as well for the first couple of years. But with the drop of the update where you can build your own Corvette, I finally converted. Finally I could build my very own Serenity! Next step is to make my way as a smuggler across the universe!
Edit: this is built after another players YouTube-tutorial by the way.
I would pay good money for a mod that has Jayne as a crewmember, and any time you ask him to do anything he just walks away murmuring “I’ll be in my bunk”.
Yeah, that would be amazing!
That’s a sweet looking ship indeed! How was your experience collecting all the necessary ship parts to build this? Do you think it helped make it more enjoyable to follow a youtube guide?
Nowadays being over 30 and having a child I don’t find as much time playing games anymore. Which makes the grinding part of games so much less enjoying and worth while. So following a youtube tutorial sometimes helps me to get through the more grindier spects of a game if its not possible to circumnavigate them.
PS: Woulf you mind sharing the youtube tutorial you followed?
So, as I’m also an “older” gamer, it definitely helped with the time management 😉 How I did it was to first just look up which parts he used and try to find as many of them as possible, or otherwise trade for them in the Corvette parts shop. For some parts I also used alternatives until I had managed to collect all of the “original” parts. And when I had collected all the parts, I then followed the tutorial to do the actual build. And I enjoyed doing it this way 🙂
There are several different alternatives, but the youtube video I followed was this: https://youtu.be/WyxeEKAnlek
Hehe wonderful, thanks for going into a deeper explanation on how you did it! Definitely gonna give it a try the next time I decide to start up the game again 🚀
No problem, enjoy! 😉
I really would like to love the game. Everytime a new update drops I try to pick up the game
Are you me?
I have it installed right now, I logged in to play all this new, raved-over content and found myself on some planet with too much air-traffic making noise overhead, needing to collect minerals to power my ship, and a base with some minecraft-like chests of loot.
I know the game is vast and deep and full of surprises and such, but I have the hardest time connecting with it enough to feel like I want to explore several hundred hyper-colorful planets.
Vast yes. Deep, no. That’s what you’re experiencing; the actual game loop is about as complex as Farmville
That may be it, I am expecting something more grand or epic or complicated to start uncovering, not really realizing that what I’m already doing is “it” and the rest is just exploring for the sake of exploring.
This is my issue with NMS.
It’s fun for a while, but it’s a pretty shallow sandbox and after you’ve played in the sand for a bit, it’s all just sand.
If you’re not setting yourself a complex and/or grindy goal, like building a neat base, finding the perfect weapon or ship, filling out your reputations or lexicon, or learning all the crafting recipes to make the ultimate mcGuffin, then there is really not much to do. And, for me, once that goal is accomplished, I’m done for a while.
Each planet is just a collection of random tree/bush/rock/animal/color combinations that are mechanically identical (unless something’s changed. I haven’t played since they added VR). I’m also a gamer who likes mechanical complexity and interactions; I don’t tend to play a game for the actual ‘role playing’.
The hand-written “quests” were fun to do most of the time, but that content runs out quickly.
I have the same problems with Elite Dangerous (I have an explorer somewhere out a solid few hours away from civilized space) and unmodded Minecraft (I can only build so many houses/castles). I’ll pick all of these up every now and then, but the fun wears off more quickly each time.
You hit the nail on the head with your explanation. And I fully agree, played alot of Elite Dangerous when it released but the game loop got boring really fast. I also don’t know how many times I’ve started a Minecraft server with friends, only for us to abandon it after playing on and off for a couple of days.
The same in NMS, tried to make the game more enjoyable by playing with friends, but just the same as with Minecraft. You really need to find or define your own goals you want to achieve. But nowadays with everyday life and a limited amount of time to spend gaming, I tend to gravitate more and more towards more linear/story based games and less sandboxy ones.
I find NMS a shallow sandbox. I have around 150 hrs in NMS, The activities do not appeal to me. I am 30 hours in playing Dwarf Fortress and I already have many self-made goals regarding child programs, fortification projects, military build-up, dam construction, production capacity, relocation of workshops…
If I just want to build something for aesthetics, I can always fire up SketchUp and other building games, instead of glitch building.
If I want shipbuilding, I have KSP and Children of a dead earth…
If I want a planetarium, I have Space Engine…
There is nothing left for me.
I have high hopes that Light No Fire will learn the lessons from NMS and make a world that is both dynamic and interesting, but grounded enough in a single planet that it’s not such a slog to explore and it’s not just “Oh, neat, a green planet with blue worm aliens and purple trees, this is a color/creature combo I haven’t seen in hours.”
Also, imagine how nice it would be if they just drop it as a huge MMO and you just drop in somewhere and people start randomly finding each other and building communities. That would go so hard, and yet the studios capable of making that kind of experience are soooo scared of the 2% of players who will play that and whinge all over the forums that they’re “bored, lost and can’t find anyone.”
The flight and combat is just not very fun.
Are you me?
Who knows, in one way or the other we might be (hello parallel universe?!)
Haha yeah I played it back in the days before the game had a real multiplayer, where you only saw other players as floating lights. Back then the game had a more “lost in the stars” vibe, more so as the sphere was no multiplayer hub and no player made buildings you stumbled upon while exploring. To be fair it also felt somewhat more empty as well.
I’ve never even heard of Man’s Sky. /s
Last time me and a buddy played we triggered enemies on a corrupted planet to earn parts to reclaim a sentient ship, but it was bugged so the enemies included corrupted and regular enemies and the ship at the end was 2 ships glitching into each other as they occupied the same location (one for each player).
I highly recommend it.
I played a lot of Elite, and tried No Man’s Sky recently. I get why somebody might like it, perhaps even more. It’s more fun. But perhaps a bit too “colorful” for me. I enjoyed the realistic touch of Elite.
But I cannot tell myself that yet another grind is what I need in my life.
definitely
Same
Dang there are a ton of comments here
It gets the (small niche) people going
No, I’m not a No Man’s Sky fan. I’m a recovering No Man’s Sky addict. If retirement exists in the future, I hope this game still exists, cuz I’m gonna ruin whatever remains of my life with it.
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Got 1700hrs in it; 42 bases across a 30+ galaxies. Mines for Sodium, Indium, Phosphorus, Rusted Metal, Sulpherine, Pyrite, and a few more. Built a few architectural wonders, too. Good times
I returned to it when the corvette update dropped. Might come back when there’s another huge update. I usually lose interest after two weeks of playing it, because things start to get repetitive.
It was apparently my top played game on PS5 this year because earlier in the year I got really into playing it while listening to King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard.
