The EU was supposed to end fossil fuel engines in 2035. It’s now modified to allow a limited number of ice cars. That’s done especially for the rich addicted to the vroom sound. They’ll rationalize it with expensive words of course. They’ll tell is for the manufacturers, but the market is going to be flooded by cheap Chinese cars anyway.
Just last week I saw an SUV with the sticker “SLOW AND LOUD” across their entire rear windshield. And indeed, they revved loud exhaust while waiting at a stoplight.
It’s now becoming a meme in my friend group to call idiots “slow and loud.” It’s honestly really fitting
That just reminded my of a time I highschool. One of the jocks called someone else a retard in front of a kid with downs syndrome. (Our 90s schools etiquette was you could use the word as an insult about someone who wasnt handicapped, as long as there wasnt someone who was handicapped to be offended by it which was kind of funny, because a couple of the kids who were loved calling people retards if they did anything dumb- which was what happened in this case. Jock immediately got called on it, then somwone asked the guy with downs if he was cool, and he said “it was pretty fucking retarded of him to say that, wasnt it”)
Anyway, this led to a campaign of us stealing all the ‘slow children’ signs from all the summer neighborhoods (like 75% of our town is completely empty when its too cold for the beach) and posting them all around the jock’s house. Like at one point, ther was a line 30+ of them screwed the length of his fence, and the stop sign right at the end of his road had 4 on each side, lined up going to the ground.
The n town kept taking them down and redistributing them, and we kept stealing them at midnight, and putting them bqck up.
Fun trivia:
Volvo, for a time, sold 60-degree, Yamaha V8s in their XC90:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volvo_B8444S_engine
Engine geometry essentially determines sound, and a 60 degree V8 is very rare. Hence it gave what was supposed to be a safe, boring SUV a hilariously burbly pipe:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rSDtrCxpKKI&pp=ygUHWGM5MCB2OA%3D%3D
And that’s cool. It’s neat, and exotic; the engine earned that noise.
Oh hey, my neighbor is in this strip!
The whistles go woooooooooo
It’s an older meme sir, but it checks out.
Thaz only in da mo’nin. You sposed to be up cookin breakfast.
Woo woooooo!
Got them whistler tips baby!
D-Bag: (Revs overly loud Honda)
Hot lady: I dare say I wish to mate with this fellow.
SITUATION WHICH HAS NEVER HAPPENED.That would be true even without the first sentence, lol
It happens in certain circles. Source: I’ve hung out with some real scumbags
According to The Fast and the Furious, it happens. ALL. THE. TIME.
~Surely movies don’t lie.~
“Sex me oh sexy sex haver!” -Hot ladies seduced by loud engines driving swiftly away never to return.
I used to live at the edge of a suburb, next to a stroad with a wide downhill curve. The “perfect” combo of a large supply of moped teens from said suburb and ideal racing/revving conditions. Many times have I wondered what you wrote. I mean in some ways this is clearly mating behavior, no?
It does work after a fashion, but the problem is that it only attracts specific types of dudes. If that’s what you’re into, though, you may be on to something.
Unfortunately this turns into a logical fallacy when they drive away. Imagine the poor guys/ladies running like mad after their ideal mate only for them to disappear into the night.
Too bad the sign is too big for motorcycles!
I know a cheap option which will add horsepower also 😁
Is it a horse?
If it is a horse, those fuckers ain’t cheap. Also you can’t just forget about them in the garage after your done with them, well you can but eventually you’ll have a dead horse and even more problems.
It could fit on a trailer… it might even be more effective!
inb4 the “loud pipes save lives” folks.
I ride motorcycle and I always love that argument. I have stock pipes on my bike and I prefer them to be as quiet as possible so that I hear as much of the road as possible, as well as other vehicles.
Yes loud motorcycles do make others aware of your presence … especially if they are very loud pipes.
What no one ever wants to admit is that you usually hear the loud pipes AFTER the bike/vehicle has passed you or is moving away. You seldom hear a loud motorcycle coming at you, especially if you are in a car with sound proofing or sound dampening. You definitely hear the big loud motorcycle pipes as the idiot is driving away from you.
The other thing I love about morons that enjoy big loud motorcycle pipes is that they are the same idiots that want an open air sound system for their motorcycle. So they get the loud pipes and then get a really powerful sound system so that they can listen to their muffled music over the sound of loud pipes, the highway and the buffeting winds as they drive down the highway. Usually, these are the same idiots that lose their hearing by the time they’re 50.
And fuck us cyclists… We get run over AND lose our hearing because we’re not protected by 1ton of soundproofed metal.
And if that logic was true, we would already have a problem worse than the yank tank issue, where the cars get bigger and bigger for “protection”. Every vehicle would get louder and louder to be heard above the other loud vehicles, and eventually living in a city would mean enjoying the non stop sound of atomic bombs exploding everywhere 100 times per second per car.
But unlike the yank tank issue, everyone would be deaf, and then the noise wouldn’t matter anymore. I guess that’s the best case scenario that those kinds of sadists hope for. They can’t hear anymore, so they want everyone else to be deaf as well.
The other thing those people fail to mention is that loud noises are disorienting, and the one thing you want when you sandwich yourself between a couple of 2 tons pieces of metal moving at 110 km/h is to disorient everybody and make them unable to move in straight lines.
The same applies to very bright lights.
shhh don’t tell the headlight lobby that these new blinding LED headlights are actually less safe because they blind oncoming drivers coming at you at 100km/h four feet away on a narrow turning road
You’ve just described my neighbor that leaves for work every morning at 4am. I hate that man.
I have a neighbor that might be entering a mid-life and/or identity crisis phase. A few months back he shows up with a hog and starts tinkering with it in the yard. Pretty soon he has a bunch of motorcycle friends who start showing up to ride and off they go, loudly farting down the street on their bikes.
I’m mostly ambivalent about the entire thing except that he tends to work a late shift, so he doesn’t get started with his hobby riding until 7 or 8 at night. Not late enough to really complain about but also late enough that it can be disruptive. He’s a okay dude and we’ve civilly chatted about the noise before, but I don’t think he thinks his motorcycle counts as noise. I hope he finds what he’s looking for out on the open road.
There’s a big change happening in motorcycling these days. A lot of older people (50+) are buying motorcycles because they always wanted to ride but they couldn’t afford it when they were younger. Mix in the fact that many old riders are now giving up their bikes and selling them … but young riders are not buying them because a young new rider can’t afford the insurance for the bike. Younger riders will go for new smaller engine bikes and many of them are now migrating towards electric bikes … it’s getting to the point where small engine bikes are as powerful, fast and economical as a good sized electric bike. Plus its easier for a young new rider to insure an electric bike than a gas powered one.
The danger with all those old riders is that many of them didn’t grow up riding a motorcycle … they always wanted to but never had the chance. But now that they’re older, have a bit money and have a bit of time, they want to ride but they’re old now … which means, they don’t have the reflexes, they don’t have the strength and they don’t have the awareness of what it feels like to get hurt on a bike. Most riders like myself learned to ride as kids on dirt bikes and ATVs … it’s a great training ground because you ride fast and do all sorts of stupid things … and most importantly, you fall and hurt yourself … so you learn from a young age what it feels like to fall on a bike a low speed and that it hurts a lot … you realize that if you go faster on a paved highway, you’re really going to get hurt.
Being an older rider you don’t get that experience and those guys usually only have one accident … and it either severely hurts them for life and they give up riding … or it kills them.
Thanks for the insight and perspective! Motorsports are admittedly not my thing, but I’m pretty sure older dudes buying motorcycles in middle age or retirement is far from a recent trend; it’s a pretty well known stereotype. Hell, Wild Hogs is almost 20 years old at this point. Not that that invalidates what you said about the dangers they pose learning to ride so late.
I’ve seen a lot of younger people in my region riding e-scooters with a seat attachment or electric mopeds.
I’ve found amber or violet head lamps help out more with being noticed.
Slowing down and avoid high traffic areas … and don’t ride during peak hours.
Riding a motorcycle was fun up until about 20 years ago. There were a lot fewer vehicles and the driving was slower. Now you have many more vehicles, modern designed wide lane straightened highways and modern vehicles with more acceleration and speed to the point that everyone thinks it’s normal to drive 20kph faster than the posted speed limit (I’m in Canada so we measure in kilometers)
Loud pipes don’t save lives because if they drive past my house one more time one of us is gonna wind up dead.
I always wonder if they are actually stupid enough to believe that bullshit themselves or if it’s just something they use because they know the honest “I actually feel pleasure by creating problems and pain to everyone else and I am somehow legally allowed to do that” would give themselves trouble.
Either way I always wish I could stick their asses on their exhaust and rev until they blow up like a balloon
I call bullshit! Not one of those assholes who feel they didn’t get enough attention as a child, and so want to force the world to give it to them now would ever be so kind as to ask nicely using “please.”
Ah yes 5k to remove muffler
It should be. Make it as inconvenient and expensive to own big and/or loud cars. In fact, let’s structure society that anyone can drive but they understand they are last priority in the infrastructure queue.
Pedestrians, bikes, trains, buses/trams, and emergency vehicles all come first, then industrial vehicles (material transport or construction vehicles or any other large commercial/industrial vehicle, then and only then come personal vehicles.
Small, electric, quiet cars get first priority in this section, then hybrids and efficient gas cars, and then finally and only then, big trucks.
But ban them being overly polluting and loud. Big is already enough of a burden.
The loudest option available is free if you own a Sawzall
or a wrench, to unbolt the pipe where it joins the catalytic converter
Or just bottom out really hard like I did to my Dodge Shadow in high school.
Just cut the cat off and sell it and you can even make money on the deal
I wish. Maybe there would be less of those then.
Love when I’m out on a walk and some jagoff drives by in a car so loud that I can’t even hear the headphones that are pumping sound directly into my ear over his wankmobile.
The other day there was some huge dodge ram, which is rather rare here. He was filling up his asshole mobile at the gas station. When he rode off, he floored it, making a super obnoxious sound. I pointed and laughed. Suddenly i heard the noise coming back, and he was beet red, asking me what’s so funny. I said the car/owner combo is pretty funny. Then he drove off, probably had to fill up his tank again.
Today I was driving my car, and by car I meant c-ard-board box with wheels painted on the side of it.
No one likes a show off
Relevant stand-up routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJXl1gPW0Fc
Caution: If you lean Trumpwards politically, this isn’t for you.
TL;DW spoiler
He winds his window down to compliment a redneck on their loud exhaust and that it made him “hard as hell” … and further gratification.
I had aftermarket exhaust on my Dodge. Still had a muffler, just louder than the stock muffler. Didn’t really care about attention, just like the way a V8 sounds 🤷♂️
Good for you.
Who gives a shit about all the people and animals around you that don’t get a moment’s peace because you “lIkE ThE WaY a V8 sOuNdS.”
That’s all that matters, right?
Where do you draw the line here?
Isn’t your house taking away places animals could live?
What about lights and how they mess with moths trying to fly towards the moon?
Another example of Lemmy moaning about every thing all the damn time.
Isn’t your house taking away places animals could live?
That’s a bad faith argument. People need a place to live. No one needs a loud exhaust.
Another example of Lemmy moaning about every thing all the damn time.
Get out of here with your victim-blaming straw man bullshit.
Nah I don’t think I will you prick.
Do you need lights on at night hurting the moths?
What’s in your fridge right now as I’m sure there are things in there that you don’t need and cause harm somewhere on Earth.
You also don’t seem to care about any other people either.
Why? How come the sound of a machine gives you pleasure? Do you feel pleasure going to the airport standing next to the plane without ear protection as well? I really wish I could understand. It’s absolutely alien to me, more like a mental issue.
But above all, are you that removed from society that you don’t know that it creates problem to other people? Or do you just don’t care and everyone can die or be tortured if it means you can enjoy your “pleasure”?
I really wish to know those answers, but above all; WHY ARE THERE SO MANY LIKE YOU? How come this species have so many dysfunctional individuals and how on earth is this accepted? Where can I go to live where there are none like you? And believe me I lived in dozens of cities looking for that answer.
I wish so much to not even know that your kind exists… To pretend this species I’m cursed to be part of is not as evil as it actually is…
‘because i like it and i’m the only person that matters :((’
I know that’s the answer but I refuse to believe and I would like them to explain themselves.
They look like me, look human, as a human, that kind of behaviour seems impossible to me. But then we have zionists, billionaires, etc, sadists everywhere, so I think the problem must be with me.
A human can be a shitty human, mostly it’s a matter of upbringing and experiences.
Speakers are machines and they give us great pleasure.
Plenty of people watch F1 and love the sounds of a V8 or V10 or whatever. So much so they can tell them apart.
Why do you feel the need to shit on what someone else likes because you don’t.
Sure if we shined a light on your life we might find that you too are a little inconsiderate at times.
This place is so fucking depressing. Just a load of sad little freaks mad at the world and giving off old man shouting at clouds vibes.
Why not just retire yourself.
Speakers are machines and they give us great pleasure.
Ok, sounds of machine explosions then. If you really have that trouble understanding.
Plenty of people watch F1 and love the sounds of a V8 or V10 or whatever. So much so they can tell them apart.
That’s what I would like to know, why do those dysfunctional individuals exists. What issue happened that made them enjoy loud noises that should make them scared? Do they enjoy the sound of thunder? Airplane jets next to their faces? Why?
Sure if we shined a light on your life we might find that you too are a little inconsiderate at times.
If I caused hearing damage to people, damaged their health, made the life of hundreds (thousands? I don’t how long you’ve been driving) a nightmare, I should be jailed or killed. I am a sociopath then, a danger to society.
How on hell is that behavior legal I don’t know, but I am not an absolute piece of shit committing crimes daily. And if I am I DO deserve punishing and it’s astonishing that society would not do it.
This place is so fucking depressing. Just a load of sad little freaks mad at the world and giving off old man shouting at clouds vibes.
Your kind makes my life fucking depressing. If I could commit crimes like your kind does, I would get rid of all of you. Unfortunately I can do nothing, only shout at clouds really.
I am being rude, yes. But like I said, to me your people are criminals and I would do anything if I could to punish you lot, not to have debates, because there is no debate with someone who doesn’t care if he’s hurting others and continues to do so.
Dude if you think people are dysfunction because they like something you don’t then you’re a loser of the highest order and you should go have a look at yourself and perhaps do some introspection.
I like classical music and many people hate it, do I judge them, no I don’t.
To answer your question about engines as I used to work with a guy who loved them and even had a cd with their sounds, unlike you I didn’t judge him and I asked him about it as I love when people are passionate about things.
This dude was doing engineering with a view to work on F1 cars and he just loved everything about cars and the sounds they make, like the engineering marvels of it are fascinating to him.
He was fascinating to me, more so than someone like you who likes to judge people.
I should clarify I’m not the person who said they enjoyed them, although I actually do now I think about it. Yeah I love thunder and airplane engines too.
Also, dudes not caring hearing damage to people you fucking idiot. Get a grip.
Do you force everyone around you in a massive distance to hear classical music everywhere you go? Even better, in a volume that would cause them hearing loss?
No right? Unless you are an absolute asshole. I love classical music, and I wouldn’t do that, because I am not a piece of shit and I know that me “like something you don’t” doesn’t give me the right to force it on you.
It’s not about taste, no matter how horrible and senseless. It’s about forcing other people to 'enjoy" your taste. Do you not get it? You can like whatever you want. But you can’t (or shouldn’t be allowed) to force everyone else to hear it.
Your fascination with that dude is yours alone. I don’t know why it’s relevant.
Also, dudes not caring hearing damage to people you fucking idiot. Get a grip.
You may have had a stroke when you wrote this. If not, it just didn’t make any sense.
What are you talking about causing hearing damage to people? Literally never heard such a case. Even after doing some searching you would have to be around 85+ Decibels for a prolonged period of time.
Years ago we have Jenson Button literally driving a F1 car through the streets of Manchester. The sound was like nothing I’ve ever heard and tens of thousands of people where there to enjoy it and I don’t know of a case of hearing damage. So it’s preposterous to claim someone driving past you with a loud exhausts is going to damage your ears. If that’s the case you best stay at home as there are plenty of other loud noises around.
They’re not banned in the Uk and they would be if they caused issues. They’re the same as motorbikes.
I can tell you this, I’ve been on this earth for 42 years and been around a lot of people and I have never ever met anybody IRL that mains about loud exhausts.
You’re going off on me like I have one, I have a stock Mercedes A200d 2020, very quiet. I’m just sticking up for the other dude who wants to enjoy things they like. You sound like my grandma.
Let’s just agree to disagree and we both fuck off cause honestly I’m not in the mood and frankly you’re boring me.
The last part said dude isn’t causing hearing damage to people. Get a grip.
You met one. Me.
I’m a cyclist, not protected with motorcycles helmet or 1 ton of metal. You don’t know the pain of being next to people “enjoying things they like” and blowing up my ears.
Or the many many many nights without sleep because of them.
And people who think they don’t have to consider others can just go get fucked. There’s not much debate we need to have about that, really.
I’m with you. I love when a car has a good sounding exhaust.
Can’t you just put some headphones on and enjoy the sound of explosions?
Does everyone in a 10km radius have to “enjoy” it as well?
So you like the people who always use their loud speakers instead of headphones?
Rather than enjoy something real, why not enjoy a video of someone else doing it? 🤣
I get the distance part, and I fully agree. I should not be able to hear your car from that far.
I like seeing atomic explosions. Surely I should be able to create one in real life because it’s a total different feeling than seeing the video.
Your pleasure should never be above the safety and rights of others. I understand headphones won’t give you the same “pleasure” as the sound of real explosions, but that’s the limits of how you should be able to enjoy it.
You do realize there are plenty of exhaust systems that aren’t absurdly loud, right? There is a whole middle ground between silent and too loud.
I don’t. To me the exhaust and noise are terrible but unavoidable issues of a combustion engine. A fetish with it and attempts to hear more of it are alien concepts to me. I would only modify my car to reduce the issue and I don’t know what you need to do to enjoy your “pleasure”.
If it’s not loud (assuming I can trust you understand what not loud means) how can you hear from inside the car? And if you can hear from inside, people outside can hear it MORE. So it’s an impossible concept to me. Like enjoying hurting others but that they don’t feel pain.
Or do you mean that anything below killing people and damaging structures is not absurdly loud and therefore acceptable?
Right? Good doesn’t have to be obnoxiously loud.
I’d argue that in order for it to sound good, it shouldn’t be deafeningly loud. You need to be able to hear it some, but not enough that people 2 blocks down from you can hear.
Agreed. Mine still had the catalytic converter and everything. Just replaced the stock muffler with Thrush mufflers, and ran dual exhaust from the cat back.
Absolutely, I love moding my bikes for a good throaty induction snarl, high compression saw tooth like exhaust gases, even the cam timing can get touched on for the sound I’m looking for.
Overly large diameter silencers/mufflers drown everything I love about engine sounds, it’s just the same loud drone at idle, part throttle or wide open, nasty.
Who on this thread hears a lexus LFA and just gets down right jealous? but yeah a stock 1.5 ltr honda with a 4 inch exhaust is um… shit, car guys make up words that are kinder, like “it’s a little boomy on the highway” but it’s just shit in your ears.
