That’s disgusting. Where would you find such torrents?
The album art torrent is a goldmine. Such a pain in the ass sometimes to find high quality album covers.
Have they actually been indexed?
There is 200gb of just metadata
4TB if you include all with popularity=0 iirc
What I used to do is google the name of the album and append to it “cover itunes”. Usually I would find high quality images of the albums that way
The fact that annas archive exists despite how fucked up everything is right now gives me hope. Every time I start to feel cynical about the future I remind myself that there’s people out there working to preserve the art and culture of our modern era with all the most powerful corporations and governments working against them, and they’re succeeding.
Anyway, thanks for coming to my Ted Talk.
100%
…and Archive.org
And Wikipedia.
Shit me, 200gb in metadata, 2.2TB in cover art before we even touch a piece of music! Wild
Its also crazy when you realise the amount of knowledge an experienced data analyst could gain from 200gb of metadata.
None of these are audio torrents.
That’s not released yet.
what a beautiful, simple and well designed website
People are saying it’s 300TB but this link is only 200GB why?
The 200GB is the metadata sqlite database only
God damn! That’s essentially just text, right? Or would it also include album cover art?
Basically, the id3 tags for the music files. However, Spotify uses several more nonstandard tags in their database, some of them are great to make playlists.
It includes cover art and also preview clips. In this blog post you can read what their database contains: https://annas-archive.li/blog/backing-up-spotify.html
Not released yet
I would never bookmark such a site! [clicks bookmark button]
“address not found”
Get better DNS
Nah, checked Wikipedia. Germany is one of the countries that entirely blocks the site.
Luckily I live in Denmark, and Denmark doesn’t block the archive. So when I’m back home I’ll certainly be checking it out.
Not all of Germany. There is this one for example, works like a charm:
Download and seed seed seed
cue Padme
‘And avoid it?’ — ‘To avoid it, right?!’
My very long game of avoiding spotify is finally paying off
Wow this is so revolutionary.
Never in the history of the internet has music been available for free.
Not this easily with accurate tags and art it hasn’t.
They more often than torrents do have the wrong tags when its not English music. Took me way too many emails to google music and Spotify before they stopped screaming at me with ALL CAPS on one album and before removing the dots after album track names (1. Track Name), not to mention the ones named TRACK 1, etc.
Uhh get on a real site and it has been.
Help me out. Where?
Did not see this coming when I built my 40TB NAS
Get to acquiring Seagate external HDDs and shucking them for your own 3.5" drive bays before the data centers get them
Sadly my wallet is on time out
The 20TB drives I was looking at in July are up 40% :/
Pc guys haven’t had a break in like 7 years. One component or another is the hottest item for one scam or another.
Frankenstein all the way, you just have to continuously build from whatever part is cheap at the moment.
I’m building my first Linux setup and have a NAS planned out. I’m so stoked. I got a raspberry pi kit from my dad as an Xmas gift yesterday.
I also used a raspberry pi (5). People here will advise against it but for me it’s been working fine so far. I can stream 4K with Jellyfin on my local network just fine. Read/write speeds aren’t great but good enough for me. I used a Pi hat with 5x SATA ports and I have 5x 8TB HDDs in a custom 3D printed enclosure and I’m using ZFS RAID z1. No complaints yet.
You learn a lot more than if you were to just slap an epyc in a box. Pi will reach you about encoding and balancing resources. I still use everything I learnt and some of the gear like the terra master only reason I don’t use it anymore is because I got free server stuff from work.
At 100 now and it looks like I need to quadruple
40TB LOL. Where we’re going, we’re gonna need more space! Back to the Space, Part IV!
My soon to be homeserver will have an astonishing 4TB of space. The CPU can handle up to 15TB (according to official specifications), but I am lacking drives that are big enough.
If I ever get the money to build a proper NAS I will 100% start going all in on Storage and start doing stupid shit like mirroring Wikipedia. I will probably not start mirroring the entirety of Spotify (which would be kinda sick NGL.), but I kind of have the problem that I Am kind of a data hoarder that likes to store excessive amounts of stuff I will never need. In the future I will also start seeding all the music I have, but I need a VPN with port forwarding for that beforehand (I’m currently kinda broke, so won’t happen that fast)
Now do Netflix, Prime, Paramount, HBO, Disney, Hulu and Apple and we’re golden.
Would be a magical day the day copyright dies.
Already done. It’s called Torrent Streaming and lets you stream-on-demand anything that exists as a torrent without having to torrent anything yourself.
A client that can stream these Spotify torrents with an interface that works like Spotify (low bar, I know) will be awesome, but also including a database to match songs to artists so users can send money directly to the artists they listen to will make it revolutionary.
A stremio for music would be amazing
When copyright dies so rich conglomerates can make money by monetizing out toys and collectibles and theme parks from smaller creators content without paying a dime back to them? Copyright is beneficial. Copyright is good. It needs reform, yes, but don’t mistake that with the concept being bad.
You should NOT actively do something, for money. You should EXPECT it.
Otherwise you’ll eventually try to maximize profits and get rid of everything that made whatever you did good in the first place.Abolishing copyright exclusive and only works if you abolish money with it. Otherwise you’re only benefiting the largest corporations, despite what you think, it won’t be the small guy winning
I’d just reduce copyright periods. Right now they are ridiculously long. No one should hold rights from 1930s works.
I think it’s quite important from the perspective of media preservation. We basically have a snapshot of music from a time where it was mostly Human-Made.
I agree, but on the flip side this will 100% be used to train new music generation models lol…
Oh my god did you guys just steal my music?! You each owe me $0.003 !!!
I got half a quesadilla and a shiny rock
You must be a very generous person, that’s worth way more than what dude asked for
You barter with what you have
Moved to Tidal. Reviews from some tech-site said “It’s like Spotify 10 years ago.” as if that’s a bad thing.
Loving the FLAC quality and non-enshittification.
Tidal lost me immediately when it took 3 months for them to recognize my cancelation of my subscription.
Tidal didn’t work when I had all my privacy settings enabled. It straight up didn’t work on the browser on Linux while blocking trackers. If I can’t run your app with full blocker settings, then I am not going to run your app.
Umm
Umm what? That I wasn’t happy I got charged three months for a service I repeatedly cancelled?
I think the confusion is that you basically said “Tidal lost me when they lost me.”
I canceled to shift my charge date originally. Then it became permanent
A customer can come back in the future. But probably not after this.
It sounds like they lost you in 3 months, not immediately.
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I moved to qobus. It’s not owned by untied states capital.
I love Qobus. I heard they also pay the artists more fairly. It’s just unfortunate that some big artists are still missing. And from what I can see subscriptions only work via the Google Play store.
I subscribed on their web to skip Google tax.
And there’s some great quality CLI applications that let you rip source quality FLACs!
I tried Tidal but they have a glitch on their app where downloaded songs get stuck and playlists stop downloading. They’ve had a bug open about it for at least three years last I checked. It may sound niche, but I’m often traveling and use offline music regularly
As far as I’ve read, the database is largely low bitrate files, and some AI. The value here is metadata and preservation of “rare” music.
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Nope, I would not call 160kbps Vorbis low bitrate, it’s roughly quality of 192kbps MP3. Only the ”popularity=0” stuff (so stuff with so few listens that Spotify does not keep record of) were re-encoded to 75kbps Opus, which as a modern codec is much better than it sounds like but of course re-encode is not great for already lossy stuff.
For purists there are those Tidal downloader sites available everywhere for free lossless music, even 24-bit hires FLAC.
Opus is what I’m encoding my working library to. I like ripping to flac (and archiving them as such), but the advantages to smaller file sizes for the working library are worth it for me. So far, I’m really liking the format.
I keep the archive on spinning hard drives, but the opus library on ssd (which makes browsing much quicker, and no unnecessary spinning up the hard drives.)
It’s not lossless but current ogg vorbis at 160kbps is absolutely transparent for the vast majority of people. That’s actually what I chose to keep my own collection, I mean, outside of the lossless albums that I absolutely want to flawlessly preserve.
How does it compare to 192 and 320 bps mp3?
I’d say in general it’s the same, but way lighter than 320 kbps mp3. It’s better than 192 kpbs mp3 and as good or better than 256 kbps mp3.
If you have really high end speakers you can hear difference between 160 Vorbis and 320 MP3, but between 160 Vorbis and 192 MP3 no way.
Thanks.
I hear the diff between 192 & 320 (probably 256 is enough but better safe than sorry I thought so that’s what I use) so 160 vorbis is very good but not totally perfect for me then.
Am I losing my mind? All magnet links are metadata, no?
They havent released the music files yet
Has anyone tried to self host this? Of course, hosting 300tb isn’t practical, so any solution would need to download the metadata and songs on demand.
I know, I read about this news, but nowhere did I find this torrent file that they are talking about, do you know where they sent it to what site, and if this is just for the sake of information, do I condemn piracy?🧐
I think you’re looking for this page.
1st time in my life I get a
Error HTTP 451even had to look up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_451 and I have to admit the reference to Ray Bradbury’s 1953 dystopian novel Fahrenheit 451 is pretty neat.Consequently because the proxy link you provided is relying on CloudFlare which is itself blocking access I recommending link first to the original content https://annas-archive.org/torrents and optionally to mirrors, proxies, etc.
Error HTTP 451
genius
“Condemn” or “condone”? While similar sounding, those two words have basically opposite meaning. Yay English!
Don’t even get started on our homophones. XD
Dude it’s 2025 you can’t use that word anymore
I buy music on Bandcamp to support artists and then stream music via my own Plex server
Didn’t know Plex could handle music libraries
Yeah it’s awesome, you get to spend all of your time chasing stupid issues like it picking the dumbest artist name possible and using it for 30 albums because one artist was on two of those albums, or deciding that 50% of your artists should be Lastname, Firstname but the other 50% should be Firstname Lastname. Then half the time it will use its own metadata for cover art and the other half it’ll use metadata in the files. Doesn’t matter how meticulous you are with your music tags an whether or not you have musicbrainz’d all of them to be consistent, it still finds a way to screw things up pretty much reliably.
But it’s all worth it because PlexAmp is surprisingly good once you’ve done the legwork and fixed all the stupid shit and I would much rather buy music directly and self-host my own music streaming system than pay spotify monthly.
It would be awesome if we had an app that allowed to stream directly from such torrents, and had a user-made recommendation system to replace the discovery algorithm :D
Stremio + Torrentio does this for TV but I haven’t found an equivalent for music. Hoping to be proven wrong 🤞
Something as easy as stremio but for music. Connect to listenbrainz instead of trakt. Then only serve from the spotify collection because of their extensive metadata. With multi device sign in and syncing like stremio. Then a Kodi add on for the libreelec people.
i need a subscribe button for this
Whoever knows the answer, or when one is developed, someone please ping us all in this thread? thanks mate
Chatgpt is recommending an IPFS Cluster but I suspect this doesn’t solve the problem completely.
I wonder how they are splitting it up in different torrents and how many.
They are splitting it up right? 😁
Direct stream may be phase 2
How many full seeds are there? I mean how many could there be? Who has 300 Tb to throw at this?
On their torrent page it’s explained more but it’s broken up into many many torrents and you basically say how much space you’re willing to host and it generates one with the least seeded “blob”.
I don’t really know how that would work on the back end but it seems technically impressive.
Wow, that is technically impressive, very cool!
Given some of the collections I’ve seen on private trackers I’d say there is going to be quite a few seeding this in its entirety.
You mean if they wipe their collection to make space. Private sites probably have better quality than Spotify.
No im saying they have so much storage I could see them having space to seed this.
Is this new? Aren’t most tracks already available in torrents?
Yep, most of tracks were already available on “various” sources, but this time they directly scraped the whole Spotify database.
It’s really nice from them to backup Spotify database on a distributed system, and for free ! This ensure Spotify business won’t be endanger in case of critical hardware failure.
So nice of them to help with Spotify’s off-site backup.
It’s new insofar as this is one big scrape. About 300TB iirc.
300tb is a lot, but its kind of crazy to think this entire company only needs 300tb storage arrays to function. I wonder how they handle things internally. I would imagine at least 1 backup server ready to go in HA. I wonder if they have multiple regions across the country that also serves up the same setup.
They need other 300TB to store all the ads.
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And now back to the Bro Jogan Experience.
have never understood the fanbase, and have never understood people who love music throwing $$$$ at spotify so they could pay brogan $$$ and give actual musicians a pittance.
Likely cloned Netflix’s “netflix in a box” design, where they drop a large 200TB+ NAS in thousands of different CDN datecenters with their most popular content cached so that total traffic is minimal across the internet at large.
Spotify mainly being music with very little video likely makes this even easier.
IIRC there’s still like 700TB of low popularity music missing, but it is only something like 0.4% of listens.
And they need a more storage overall because they have to set up datecenters around the world - doesn’t make sense to stream tens of millions of connections across the ocean. But that also gives all the backups one would need for “free”.Afaik 300 TB is just the most popular music and around a third of all tracks. The blog post on anna’s is quite entertaining tho.
This isnt the entirety of Spotify. If they would have archived everything in 160kbps OGG Vorbis it would have been 700+TB. Theres A bucket load of songs that literally no one listens to.
There are 245 TB ssd drives now. You can almost fit that in a single drive.
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Oh I know, I work in the industry as well. Our company backups alone for workstations and servers is just under 1 petabyte. This is then replicated to an offsite location which is also out disaster recovery location, and also stored in long term storage in Azure. This is just backups, sooo much money for backups haha. Thats why I am shocked that this entire company can run off of 300tb which is a lot, but nothing when you think of it being the entire business model for them.
I think the craziest thing ive seen is we have these instruments that do genome testing and sequencing and they would create like 10tb worth of data per month. Every month they got there own 10tb drive handed to them to backup their stuff on there own on top of the ones we did for them.
I worked with visualisation of scientific data, up to 1petabyte, multi channel 3D realtime visu without degradation. One client had 1.5TB ram. Interesting times.
Not mine, because I’m not famous enough for people to pirate my music lol. It would be flattering for me to be included in this batch of scraped music.
I’d steal your music
If your Spotify popularity is not 0, you probably are in the scraped archive.
