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      If you ask AI models to hallucinate what it would do as CEO, they usually say things that are environment and worker friendly, so it would be an improvement. Of course, they would train the CEO AI with nothing but Henry Ford speeches and books about the grindset.

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    Pichai has acheived next to nothing in 11 years at google that wasnt set up by previous leadershi-- all while keeping one of the largest and finest development teams in the world. No big product launches since 2015 when he too over. His “bard” AI effort crashed and burned. He can feel free to shut up and sit down. This pencil-dicked loser needs to do more listening than talking.

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      I have not large doubts that he and even some people in his position elsewhere can be replaced by AI. We could save a hell lot of money and be even more productive!

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      Google long ago became another IBM: bureaucratic, rent-seeking and no longer innovative.

      IBM has (at least had) quite a lot of clever techies too, but as an organization it’s brain-dead.

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    I see no reason to listen to what that guy has to say on this topic. He’s only out for money and you can’t believe a word he says and he’s not an expert on it.

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      It definitely is a threat. Considering they are already planning on replacing entry level positions with AI they are directly attacking this new generation’s livelihood.

      So the fact that they get a little pushback for trying to end the cycle of employment is kind of a joke. This new generation should literally be at their throats if they knew what was good for them.

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      These graduates are actually both going to be a big part of driving that progress and also dealing with the impact," he added, referring to AI.

      Yes. And a direct one at that.

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    the only consequence of a world without ai is a smooth running industrial powerhouse that increases the value of its people and marketshares. continued use of ai reduces marketshare as well as production output while also shrinking the customer base

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      Yeah, it’ll be like the impact on the ocean of someone taking their toe out of the water.

      The next big thing won’t come from Google. It’s just doing portfolio management, sustaining and milking me-too products like their web apps and Google Cloud while enshittifying them, and hoping they’ll get lucky with one of their many incubator projects. Odds are, they won’t. They lack the agility and aren’t hungry anymore.

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    I think both sides are correct. AI will be still around a decade and centuries from now, and AI poses great risks. The real question is, “Who controls it?”

    Hopefully the students do not try to destroy the loom, but instead try to make sure that they are so common and easy to use, that corporations do not have genuine control over the usage of AI. Every minority should have a digital lawyer that has 95% of the ability of Disney’s, to protect people from Kavenaugh Stops. Every poor person should be able to manage their finances just as well as the most blueblooded billionaire. Every household should own a home server and a robot, leasing their usage to corporations. Those corporations shouldn’t own the AI nor robots.

    What I am saying, is that we should structure society to ensure that the worst people are not our masters forevermore. Their goal is to control the means of production, and to remove our lives from the process. Both figuratively AND literally.

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      I agree with your first statement. The conundrum of who controls it is more important than anything else at this point.

      I find your comment about students destroying the loom misplaced and misinformed. I am guessing you are referring to the myth of the luddites. Of course the reality is they were never against the machines, but they were against being displaced by machines without compensation. Below are their demands.

      "The establishment of a minimum wage to ensure workers could sustain their families despite changing production method.

      The provision of work or compensation for skilled artisans and craftsmen who had been displaced by automated machinery.

      The regulation and limitation of child and women’s labor in early industrial factories.

      The legal right to form trade unions, which were outlawed at the time, to collectively bargain and advocate for improved working conditions.

      Opposition to deceitfully manufactured, inferior goods that were being mass-produced on automated"

      I like your optimism about LLM doctors and lawyers. Unfortunately with an error rate that can sometimes approach 60% along with hallucinations LLM AI is far from ready and would cause far more problems than it would solve.

      You are absolutely correct that corporations shouldn’t own AI. If AI is to ever be useful and not purely a propaganda/advertising machine then corporations should not be in control of the models.

      I appreciate your lofty goal of eliminating the worst people from being our masters. Unfortunately, the worst people already are in control of AI and it will likely end up just the opposite of your wishes. A tool to keep the worst people as masters.

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        I am aware that the wealthy already have control of AI, but that grasp isn’t firm yet. That is why it is important for people to start thinking about policy and implementation now, rather than letting the elite to shape the narrative.

        As to optimism, AI is an technology, and it is improving quickly. Eventually, local AI will be able to fit into our phones, and be superior in quality and speed to what I have on my PC*. We should try to initiate an endeavor to make AI available to everyone. For example, Switzerland is working on Apertus, a sovereign AI model for themselves. The development of libre AI is extremely important for sustaining democracy, because it will become a fundamental tool for any modern society.

        *A 5950x CPU, 128gb DDR4, 4090, and 3060. I can run 120b models on this aged but fairly powerful machine. Two years ago, on the same PC specs, 70b AI at best, with much inferior quality and speed. It used to take an hour to get output that I receive in minutes now.

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      No, we do not need to “structure society” around proliferating LLM chatbot girlfriends and robot butlers in order to have socialism. Fuck off with this “people’s techbro” horseshit.

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        Your position is bad, because it ensures the worst outcome. AI is just one form of power, that evil people will gladly make use of. Either we make it so that society in general understand and is able to control it, or simply allow a group of evil people to obtain sole mastery over the technology.

        Say for example if conservatives were the only people with guns, while minorities of all kinds refused to have weapons. Who do you think will end up being bullied, enslaved, and slaughtered? AI is that question, but for economics.

        The reason why I push for every household to have a home server and robot, is to prevent an accumulation of power. If governments and corporations had to receive industrial power from citizens, that makes them much more beholdened to democracy and following the will of the people.

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    “Now it’s your time to realize your dreams,” he told graduates. “The timing could not be more perfect.”

    My dream is a world without ultracapitalist CEOs.

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      My dream is that when I search something on the web I get results 100% arranged on relevance with no commercially motivated rearranging of results. I also dream about ad free OSs, but that one came true for me back in 2005 (thanks Linux!).

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      My dream is a multiplayer marrio brothers on end to end en, something.

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      My dream is chilling by the pool/lake/river doing fuck all with some friends and something nice to drink (alcohol or not).

      I can already realize my dream whenever the fuck I want, and AI helps 0% achieving any part of it.

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      “These graduates are actually both going to be a big part of driving that progress and also dealing with the impact,” he added, referring to AI.

      Out of context it sounds like a threat, but in connect it just sounds like vacuous CEO-speak, designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.

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          People are out here still rooting for the circus ring master when we have known for decades now that they’re beating and enslaving the elephants, tigers, and crew alike, while splitting what the pick pockets get from the crowd while everyone enjoys the show.

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        designed to respond to the question with some words while not actually answering the question.

        Ok, I see why they are so enamored of LLM chat…

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    “Humans aren’t evolved to process that much change,” he said, adding that the scale of the change is unlike anything the world has seen.

    LOL, your massive plagiarism boxes are not that impressive, you pompous shit.

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      They can’t even fucking troubleshoot basic electronics. The less popular the product, the more likely they are to give you instructions that might kill you. Literally kill you, by the way.

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      I love the hubris.

      Humans aren’t evolved to process that much change, says a man who grew up in the 20th century. At the start war was just a scrap in a field, the most advanced piece of technology was an x-ray machine, and a major airport was a relatively flat piece of grass made for gliders made out of wood and canvas, by the end we’d had two world wars and one cold war, computers were everywhere, we had MRI machines and satellites and even a space station in orbit, and there are millions of flights a day on jet liners.

      Yeah, no other human has ever lived through so much change.

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        Well put haha, there is like no self-reflection at all, it’s like these guys are on full speed ahead forward at all times without a thought. I suppose that’s what they teach in business school or whatever, or whatever mind fuck conferences those guys all go to, remember TED talks when all these assholes had so many big cool ideas? LOL, what a bunch of fucking smoke blowing out their asses, all just talk and talk and nothing good. I’m sure that’s not the entire case but it sure as hell seems like it. These guys really had us fooled thinking they were smart.