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      This is largely because of the traditional use of fish-based finings (isinglass) which clarify yeast from beer. Just about any keg beer, including small batch and craft, won’t use this any more, its not needed or effective. And for bottled and cask conditioned beers/ales the price and effectiveness of vegan finings has gone down and up respectively quite a bit in the past few years, so non-vegan beers are definitely in the minority. Even in the UK (where cask is far more common).

      No idea about wine though.

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      That’s because vegan rules are ridiculously draconian. Vegan or not, all beer and wine is plant-based.

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          Plant based ≠ 100% plant matter. Your absolutism is ridiculous and reminiscent of racist “one drop” policies.

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            That’s like saying a burger is plant based since the patty and cheese are the only non-plant based parts. That’s ridiculous and just not what the word plant-based means.

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              No it isn’t. Plant-based means based on plants, which a beer is and a burger isn’t.

              Movies and TV shows can be based on a true story without being documentaries,. It’s the same thing with plant-based food that isn’t 100% vegan.

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                Language is interesting in this way. Same words in different contexts mean different things.

                “Based on true events” = “Contains traces of what actually happened”

                “Plant based” = “Does not contain animal products but can contain mushrooms even though they are not plants”

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            Wtf else could it possibly mean dude? I’m not even vegan but that’s exactly what I’d expect. Plant based is a meaningless term if you can throw animal parts in and still call it plant based.

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        Although there are beers with lactose added (eg milkshake ipas have it for texture and taste), but those are an exception of course.