• DavidGarcia@feddit.nl
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    I don’t understand why people insist on making this a left vs. right/progressive vs. conservative problem when it is clearly a establishment vs. proletariat problem. The establishment will just wear the skinsuit of any political movement if it helps to increase their power and wealth. Has nothing to do with Christianity.

    • mah [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      2 years ago

      The article also argues for the same point, I believe. However, it posits that the right-wing and populist movements in Europe are employing the language and political tools of Christian Democracy to rationalize their actions. The process of European integration has also contributed to these dynamics. Nonetheless, you are correct; the fundamental reasons lie elsewhere.

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    Christianism has long gone extinct in France, but that didn’t prevent our downfall.

    Oh, you are hexbear. That explains

    • mah [none/use name]@hexbear.netOP
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      2 years ago

      hmm.

      In France, we like to give lessons in secularism to the whole world. It is not here that a president would take an oath on the Bible! The problem is that this great national narrative is sometimes accompanied by monumental hypocrisy. In reality, there is nothing particularly neutral or exemplary about the system in place in France.

      https://www.lemonde.fr/blog/piketty/2020/12/

      France is not really different from other European countries when it comes to religion. And often “laicité” is used to enforce an “identity” politics based on Christianity. Like, Sarkozy and his bullshit “Loi interdisant la dissimulation du visage dans l’espace public” (law forbidding the veil)? Or the early debate about burkini that is on ALL the medias?

      But tell yourself that christianism has long gone extinct in France, sure, lol.