They were dragged from the vehicle - marked “TV” in red tape - searched and pushed against a wall.
Mr Tutunji and Mr Abudiab said they identified themselves as BBC journalists and showed police their press ID cards.
While attempting to film the incident, Mr Tutunji said his phone was thrown on the ground and he was struck on the neck.
Fuck, and here I thought “okay, maybe a honest mistake, tensions are running high”. But nope, pure malice.
IDF killed a Reuters reporter earlier today with Helicopter. They’ve blown up the Al Jazeera offices during previous wars and shot Shireen Abu Akleh dead while she was clearly marked as press.
This is no mistake. There is a pattern of suppressing and killing journalists who don’t report the story in their favor.
Don’t forget “Collateral Murder”:
On July 12, 2007, a series of air-to-ground attacks were conducted by a team of two U.S. AH-64 Apache helicopters in Al-Amin al-Thaniyah, New Baghdad, during the Iraqi insurgency which followed the invasion of Iraq. On April 5, 2010, the attacks received worldwide coverage and controversy following the release of 39 minutes of classified gunsight footage by WikiLeaks. The video, which WikiLeaks titled Collateral Murder, showed the crew firing on a group of people and killing several of them, including two Reuters journalists, and then laughing at some of the casualties, all of whom were civilians. An anonymous U.S. military official confirmed the authenticity of the footage, which provoked global discussion on the legality and morality of the attacks.
What’s your point? “Collateral Murder” was the US military. Just whataboutism?
Both things are bad.
The biggest issue with that was the US denying involvement until the video was released. The actions of the helicopter crew make sense in context when watching the video.
There were RPGs and rifles in the group that was 100 yards from US ground forces that had been under attack by small arms fire and RPGs. The camera equipment appeared to be additional weaponry, and the reporters wore no identifying gear and had not informed the military of their location.
When a cameraman pointed his camera at US troops, the long telephoto lens appeared from the chopper to be an RPG, so the gunner fired on him and on the support van that drove up on scene.
When boots arrive at the scene, the soldiers find weapons and cameras, and immediately try to evacuate the wounded children. It should be noted that one of the journalists who died died at the hospital. If they were really trying to cover things up at that point they would have made sure he died at the scene.
The video proves that the US lied about what happened, but also very clearly demonstrates that there was zero intentional killing of journalists.
Thanks for the background info.
The BBC Arabic team and two reporters with Arab sounding names were treated poorly by police.
This could either be a case of racism, or targeting the media, and we don’t have enough data to determine which. Neither is a good look
those IDF soldiers would have to be pretty fucking stupid to accidentally do a hate crime on the large van marked “TV” when there are plenty of other people in beating range they could do a hate crime on with no consequences.
Hanlon’s razor be damned this was 100% on purpose.
Edit: and it’s not like Israel has a history of killing journalists or anything. Please don’t look up “Shireen Abu Aqla”, nothing to see there
Edit edit: Shireen ain’t the only one, ~20 in 20 years.
I mean, Israeli Police regularly did both before this conflict escalated again, so does it even matter?
This has been going on for years and years even when there is no particular conflict.
Are people still saying Israel is the good guys? Do good guys do this?
Do good guys kill Reuters cameramen?
Do good guys bomb hospitals?
Do good guys commit genocide?
Do good guys commit genocide?
I was arguing with someone about that. Their unwavering position was that population in Gaza is growing, so it cannot be a genocide. UN genocide definition was wrong in their eyes. I tried to compromise to call it “only” ethnic cleansing, they seemed unimpressed. Then they called me a tankie.
Just take that in: it’s not a genocide because not enough evil sand people died. What the actual fuck?
What the fuck. Who are they listening to? I have also heard the “UN genocide definition is wrong” argument - but because it’s incomplete. The UN definition is too strict to categorize all genocides into.
Shooting from tbe hip on this exact stat, but 10 - 15% of the population of Gaza is over 25. Gaza is basically 2 million children and teenagers. Whom all have PTSD.
36% are over 25.
Does the term “good guys” make sense outside of comic book movies?
Not sure there’s such a thing as “good guys” anymore.
When the news reports deaths, Israeli’s are “killed,” and Palestinians “die.”
That the BBC would report on this unironically is noteworthy.
We gave Israel a free pass to treat people terribly. They treated our people terribly.
What else do they expect?
Israel is doing exactly what the Hamas terrorists wanted them to do. Overreact.
Hah. Israeli police suppressing European press, “I cant believe Hamas done this”
Israel doing what it’s always done regardless.
Every year you hear of them killing a journalist or reporter, or two.
Don’t know who’s down voting you, but yes, this is actually textbook strategy for insurgent warfare.
Little guy makes a move with the goal of provoking big guy to create a security clampdown and overreact. This feeds little guy’s PR and recruitment efforts, as well as potentially overstretching big guy’s resources.
I even have a recent and precisely on topic video that covers it:
https://youtu.be/UKvzOF-toIA?si=ge1cJA2H7_NtDJcu
He even references the ACTUAL DOD MANUALS that detail this strategy.
Yeah, especially considering the initial attack was likely somewhat related to trying to stop Israel and Saudi Arabia’s growing friendship, but can anyone name a country that wouldn’t demand vengeance after the atrocities at the music festivals and overrun communities?
The attack was designed to be brutal to force a brutal response, probably designed to be like that by Iranian religious fanatics who couldn’t care less about the Palestinian population as long as they’re a good weapon to use against Israel.
None of that justifies Israel doing awful things but it does make it harder to think about.
The other option is to be sad about the atrocities, not angry. Yes I know that basically doesn’t happen especially anymore with everyone on such high edge.
But, if we want to not immediately go this route every time to not play into the hands of terrorists then the answer is sad. Empathetic. Feel the pain and hurt of all the people lost and what it would take for someone to do something horrible. It needs to be a tragedy first and an excuse for a slapping contest after.
It won’t work on everyone but it’s a far better response, and will get people on the side of the victims more than the terrorists and then with a slower response less needless casualties.
But what leader have you seen been upset about this and not just excited to finally do something interesting like war? Empathy hasn’t been important to society for too long now.
Serious question- and I’m
It being argumentative- this is a question I have wrestled forth myself.What would proportionate response look like?
A well executed police raid to drag Hamas’ leadership out
This is 1,000,000% corruption coming from the head, so chopping off the head will go a long way towards ending Hamas’ problem causing.
Problem is that Netenyahu trying this is what got Hamas into power in the first place because he decided he wanted a replacement govt to be a hateable enemy so I’m not too hopeful
I think that sounds absolutely right. But I worry about while it sounds good from my armchair, to what extent it’s really possible given conditions on the ground and the hostages.
Probably something less than genocide and killing unaffiliated reporters
Agreed. So - what?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
BBC journalists covering the attack on Israel were assaulted and held at gunpoint after they were stopped by police in the Israeli city of Tel Aviv.
Muhannad Tutunji, Haitham Abudiab and their BBC Arabic team were driving to a hotel when their car was intercepted.
"One of our BBC News Arabic teams deployed in Tel Aviv, in a vehicle clearly marked as media, was stopped and assaulted last night by Israeli police.
Palestinian militant group Hamas launched an unprecedented attack on Israel on Saturday, killing at least 1,300 people.
Israel has told those in the north of the Gaza Strip - about 1.1 million people - to relocate to the south of the territory within 24 hours.
Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, told civilians to ignore the evacuation order, describing it as “fake propaganda”.
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