The only kid I’ve ever seen who looked like they were going to die like sickly pale I later found out was vegan, parents were anti vaxxers, believed essential oils can cure cancer, etc.
I’ve never seen anyone without an eating disorder who is an omnivore look deathly sick like that.
Unless you’re eating a ton of nuts and beans I fail to see how you get enough protein for 2gm of protein per lb of body weight. The math simply doesn’t add up.
Also I dont believe chickens cows or pigs have agency so morality isn’t relevant to me. I do want them killed as quickly as possible, though.
I try to buy local meat whenever possible (1/4 cow etc)
@Dkarma@BonesOfTheMoon You don’t need 2gm/lb of bw, though. First, it would be per lb of *lean* bw. Second, it’s actually more like *1* g/lb of lean bw, or 2.2 g/kg of lean bw **as an upper max**, like if you’re a super body builder. For *regular* people, something much more like 1.5 g/kg of lean bw is totally sufficient.
Oh, and I eat a ton of legumes, so I can (and *do*) easily exceed that 2.2 g/kg threshold on my workout days.
Two grams of protein per pound of bodyweight is way overkill and there is zero evidence it helps anything. Even for people doing rigorous strength training, muscle gains cap out at 0.8-1g. If you’re not in the gym lifting heavy six days a week you don’t need more than 0.4.
I am going to assume that something said on the internet actually happened and this was not said in bad-faith.
Perhaps you should consider whether that kid looked like they were going to die due to “parents were anti vaxxers, believed essential oils can cure cancer, etc.” rather than “was vegan”. Also, don’t be quick to judge whether someone has an eating disorder or not, as it’s sometimes hard to notice. For all you know the kid could also have an undiagnosed ED.
Vegans, at least in my case, can get a lot of their protein from tofu, hummus / chickpeas. Please refer to the Vegan Nutrition Wikipedia for more info about what to expect from eating plant-based food (i.e. the diet that vegans eat). There should be more information in the community sidebar regarding veganism should you be interested.
Also I dont believe chickens cows or pigs have agency so morality isn’t relevant to me.
This, to me, is always an interesting take. Before becoming vegan I felt that there was an intrinsic hierarchy that meant we could exploit animals for commodities and I used one’s agency as a measure of value to an animal life. I was then confronted with the idea of farming disabled humans with no agency and that made me realize that my belief was actually just speciesism. Obviously, there are other reasons to argue for/against veganism, and I don’t think this is even one of the main talking points (e.g. like factory farming being compared to the holocaust).
I do want them killed as quickly as possible, though.
You seem to acknowledge that they feel pain, or at least that their screams would not rest easy on you. If you haven’t already seen it, there is an in depth documentary about the animal agriculture industry, Dominion. Perhaps you may be unaware of the full extent of the brutalist practices and the torture involved, there’s an entire industry trying to make sure you don’t find out so you keep buying their products.
I try to buy local meat whenever possible (1/4 cow etc)
And for this. I think this speech from Earthling Ed turned me vegan.
The only kid I’ve ever seen who looked like they were going to die like sickly pale I later found out was vegan, parents were anti vaxxers, believed essential oils can cure cancer, etc.
I’ve never seen anyone without an eating disorder who is an omnivore look deathly sick like that.
Unless you’re eating a ton of nuts and beans I fail to see how you get enough protein for 2gm of protein per lb of body weight. The math simply doesn’t add up.
Also I dont believe chickens cows or pigs have agency so morality isn’t relevant to me. I do want them killed as quickly as possible, though.
I try to buy local meat whenever possible (1/4 cow etc)
Just eat easy vegan meat replacements and you’re fine. Especially eating soy is an easy way to get protein in. It’s not hard anymore.
@SkyeStarfall @Dkarma It never was, especially if you don’t swallow that 2g/lb bullshit.
@Dkarma @BonesOfTheMoon You don’t need 2gm/lb of bw, though. First, it would be per lb of *lean* bw. Second, it’s actually more like *1* g/lb of lean bw, or 2.2 g/kg of lean bw **as an upper max**, like if you’re a super body builder. For *regular* people, something much more like 1.5 g/kg of lean bw is totally sufficient.
Oh, and I eat a ton of legumes, so I can (and *do*) easily exceed that 2.2 g/kg threshold on my workout days.
Two grams of protein per pound of bodyweight is way overkill and there is zero evidence it helps anything. Even for people doing rigorous strength training, muscle gains cap out at 0.8-1g. If you’re not in the gym lifting heavy six days a week you don’t need more than 0.4.
Maybe get tested for sociopathy.
Lol udk what that means do you?
Hi,
I am going to assume that something said on the internet actually happened and this was not said in bad-faith.
Perhaps you should consider whether that kid looked like they were going to die due to “parents were anti vaxxers, believed essential oils can cure cancer, etc.” rather than “was vegan”. Also, don’t be quick to judge whether someone has an eating disorder or not, as it’s sometimes hard to notice. For all you know the kid could also have an undiagnosed ED.
Vegans, at least in my case, can get a lot of their protein from tofu, hummus / chickpeas. Please refer to the Vegan Nutrition Wikipedia for more info about what to expect from eating plant-based food (i.e. the diet that vegans eat). There should be more information in the community sidebar regarding veganism should you be interested.
This, to me, is always an interesting take. Before becoming vegan I felt that there was an intrinsic hierarchy that meant we could exploit animals for commodities and I used one’s agency as a measure of value to an animal life. I was then confronted with the idea of farming disabled humans with no agency and that made me realize that my belief was actually just speciesism. Obviously, there are other reasons to argue for/against veganism, and I don’t think this is even one of the main talking points (e.g. like factory farming being compared to the holocaust).
You seem to acknowledge that they feel pain, or at least that their screams would not rest easy on you. If you haven’t already seen it, there is an in depth documentary about the animal agriculture industry, Dominion. Perhaps you may be unaware of the full extent of the brutalist practices and the torture involved, there’s an entire industry trying to make sure you don’t find out so you keep buying their products.
And for this. I think this speech from Earthling Ed turned me vegan.