Quote: “We must teach Israel a lesson, and we will do it again and again. The Al-Aqsa Deluge [the name Hamas gave its 7 October onslaught - ed.] is just the first time, and there will be a second, a third, a fourth. Will we have to pay a price? Yes, and we are ready to pay it. We are called a nation of martyrs, and we are proud to sacrifice martyrs.”

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    2 years ago

    No, I mean people literally calling Hamas “freedom fighters”, and outright cheering them on. There’s a difference between “calling for the stop of oppression and genocide and ethnic cleansing” and blatantly supporting the actions of a terror organization.

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      2 years ago

      People cheer for nazis, too. Are you going to make a generic claim that “It’s mind-blowing that people defend these monsters” as well? Maybe you should make a comment about people who “defend” mass shooters too! Let’s not forget all those “defenders” of eugenics.

      Just because you see one or two people making propaganda doesn’t mean it’s something reasonable people are doing.

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        People cheer for nazis, too. Are you going to make a generic claim that “It’s mind-blowing that people defend these monsters” as well?

        Yes. If I ever see a significant number of people defending the Nazis in spaces I speak in I will say exactly that.

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          2 years ago

          Man, when you go outside some time you’re going to have your mind absolutely shattered at all the surprising things people do.

          It’s a meaningless phrase meant to distance yourself from something distasteful. It has no bearing on anything but the person saying it, unless they’re using it as a dog-whistle to call out people who are saying something they don’t like, as BaldProphet is doing above.

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            2 years ago

            You seem quite disturbed and angered by the fact that I would be disturbed and voice that worry if I saw a bunch of Nazis around.

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              2 years ago

              You have a poor grasp of the situation if that’s how you’re interpreting it.

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        2 years ago

        I don’t believe it is reasonable, but as I said, I am surprised by how many people are unreasonably supportive of Hamas, despite otherwise priding themselves on being progressive forward-thinkers.

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          2 years ago

          Probably because you’re misinterpreting lack of support for Israel as support of Hamas.

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      people literally calling Hamas “freedom fighters”, and outright cheering them on.

      You think most people here are like that? Most people seem to be appalled by what Hamas did on October 7th. Most people also seem to be appalled by Israel killing huge numbers of civilians.