They support Claude, ChatGPT, Gemini, HuggingChat, and Mistral.
They better not decide to enable it by default.
why a fucking chatbot? translate a page better for me you fucking losers, all the translation options suck for privacy outside of specifically trained local AIs. this is the BEST use case for a small local LLM yet mozilla with all its brains and resources couldnt rub two neurons together for this.
or they could do character prediction on your typing to make typing faster. just some legit examples, why waste resources to build a chat ai into my browser when i can just open a website???
Thing is, for your average user with no GPU and whp never thinks about RAM, running a local LLM is intimidating. But it shouldn’t be. Any system with an integrated GPU, and the more RAM the better, can run simple models locally.
The not so dirty secret is that ChatGPT 3 vs 4 isn’t that big a difference, and neither are leaps and bounds ahead of the publically available models for about 99% of tasks. For that 1% people will ooh and aah over it, but 99% of use cases are only seeing marginal gains on 4o.
And the simplified models that run “only” 95% as well? They can use 90% fewer resources give pretty much identical answers outside of hyperspecific use cases.
Running a a “smol” model as some are called, gets you all the bang for none of the buck, and your data stays on your system and never leaves.
I’ve been yelling from the rooftops to some stupid corporate types that once the model is trained, it’s trained. Unless you are training models yourself, there is no need for the massive AI clusters, just for the model. Run it local on your hardware at a fraction of the cost.
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I wish I had telemetry on such features.
I really doubt a significant number of people use AI chatbots often enough that having it in a dedicated sidebar is worth it.
I wish I had telemetry
I’m sure they do as Mozilla is an ad company
This is apparently either not widely known or some people just like to shoot the messenger.
- jwz, Jun.: Mozilla is an advertising company now
- jwz, Oct.: Mozilla’s CEO doubles down on them being an advertising company now
- Mozilla support: Share data with Mozilla to help improve Firefox
- Firefox documentation: Telemetry
While you are not wrong your dislike of Mozilla is has more to do with your instance being anti west. I’m not sure I’m ready to side with lemmyml
I happen to know jwz personally, and he knows Mozilla intimately: he founded it. His dislike of Mozilla is pretty much the same as mine, and he is neither “anti west” nor anti liberal. We dislike Mozilla because it has lost its way from being a FOSS browser maintainer and a booster for & steward of an open web.
And I’m not “anti-West,” I’m anti-capitalist, anti-settler-colonialist, and anti-imperialist; and those happen to be things that “the West” presently embodies.
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I’m pretty sure I know what the instance I admin does & doesn’t endorse, thanks.
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Didn’t want it in Opera, don’t want it in Firefox. I mean they can keep trying and I’ll just keep on ignoring this shit :/
hopefully, it’ll be possible to opt out somehow.
as the screenshot shows, it is opt-in
Sigh. I’m glad to have switched to LibreWolf.
I switched a while back before all the Ai and “privacy preserving” telemetry stuff.
Every update note I see for Firefox now just reinforces my decision.
as someone who’s never dabbled with ai bots, what does this feature do? is it only to query for information like a web search?
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It gives you many options on what to use, you can use Llama which is offline. Needs to be enabled though about:config > browser.ml.chat.hideLocalhost.
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I don’t understand the hate. It’s just a sidebar for the supported LLMs. Maybe I’m misunderstanding?
Yes, I would prefer Mozilla focus on the browser, but to me, this seems like it was done in an afternoon.
I want my browser to be a browser. I don’t want Pocket, I don’t want AI, I don’t want bullshit. There are plugins for that.
that’s the great thing: you don’t have to use it
But Firefox wastes time developing that instead of fixing 20 years-old bugs.
i know it is an unpopular opinion around here. but currently AI features open doors for sales. that is important.
for the software i help develop, we introduced an optional AI integration. just its presence allowed us to sell the main SW multiple times. the AI plugin was never sold so far.
investment AI: 2 weeks of gluecode. i am not concerned with finances, but that plugin is for sure net positive.
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right now we don’t have any real customers that use it - as the plugin did not sell yet.
but from testing at customer sites with real people that would use it - we got only positive feedback. which is not hard to imagine: the RAG + LLM enables less experienced users to navigate a huge and complex network of information.
but it for sure is also a buzzword execs like to see: they talked to us because we have AI. saw that the main product is good. bought the main product and decided the AI is too expensive.
in the end it doesn’t matter to me. the 2w of AI was a fun sidequest and it left us with a passive boost for sales.
Unpopular opinion, I think they’re doing it right as well as it can be at least. It’s completely optional and doesn’t seem to be intrusive.
yeah its not google chrome level which i’m thankful about.
I’m way more pissed about restarting my PC after an update and having Copilot installed without my permission.
