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    Warsaw public transport made a report few years ago about costs and issues with electeic busses. Main problem: Range, Second problem: Higher total cost over entire lifespan of the vehicle

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      I don’t think anyone said reducing climate change would come free. It’s still more ethical and cheaper than killing all the people who will try to escape uninhabitable regions of the Earth.

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        These businesses still operate on profit and loss. They can’t just move to full electric because in 100 years world might warm up by 4 degrees. If you want electrification, then make electricity and batteries cheap in the first place

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          It’s not „might”. The alternative is to burden our children with horrifying cost. Yeah, we can be selfish - it’s more convenient. I don’t think regular people should bear this cost but everywhere I see people are against rising taxes for the rich so this is what they get.

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            Rich pay fuck ton of taxes. Most of EU has progressive taxation and capital gains tax. What else do you want? Unlike in USA there’s no ‘Buy, Borrow, Die’ loophole allowing tax escape when inheritance happens

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              When was the last time wealthy stopped getting wealthier faster than the rest of society? 70s? That’s about how long wealthy have been systemically preferred over everyone else.

              You might say GDP grows but this is what’s underneath:

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                When was the last time wealthy stopped getting wealthier?

                This isn’t even a problem. You should strive for increasing quality of life for everyone rather than some idealistic notion of equality. People aren’t equal, period. Some have great ability to run business or produce goods, others don’t. Inequality is inevitable.

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                  That’s very reductive and convenient for the wealthy. It will be convenient until we reach wealth inequality that US just reached. What they have now is about same as 30s Germany and 90s Rwanda. This alarms me but it doesn’t alarm you so I must assume you’re fine with the outcome.

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          Public transport is not a for-profit business, therefore you should not expect it to generate cash. You wouldn’t expect highways, national defence or a hospital to bring in money. However a functioning public transport network reduces costs caused by high car usage such as pollution, parking, traffic accidents, traffic jams, higher road maintencance.