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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago

There is no censorship in the west.

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There is no censorship in the west.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 3 years ago
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  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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    3 years ago

    My view is that I have no idea what CCP is, but CPC doesn’t seem to be doing anything exceptional with regards to historical revisionism. Perhaps you can try to articulate the point you’re trying to make in more concrete terms.

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      I see. For a concrete example, does China/CPC censors or not Tiananmen Square events? Some context https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Censorship_in_China

      Within China, censorship in recent weeks increased as the country prepared for the 30th anniversary of the Tiananmen Square uprisings, a series of student protests that were violently suppressed by the army, leading to more than 10,000 civilian deaths, according to some estimates.

      Prior to the anniversary, on June 4, Chinese internet users reported widespread censorship on social media websites. On popular messaging services such as Weibo and a streaming service run by the company YY Inc., users were prevented from entering search terms such as “Tiananmen incident,” “candlelight vigil,” “repression,” and “student movement.”

      China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs did not respond to a request for comment. —https://theintercept.com/2019/06/07/china-bans-the-intercept-and-other-news-sites-in-censorship-black-friday/

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        Tiananmen square was an attempt at a color revolution by US https://redsails.org/another-view-of-tiananmen/

        There was a whole documentary about it in China https://web.archive.org/web/20200604205421/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDMXV1smwR0

        Meanwhile, every government censors things. For example, most Canadians don’t realize that the genocidal residential school system operated well into the 80s 90s. Thousands of children have been found in mass graves, and there’s hardly a mention of this in the media.

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          The last residential school didn’t close until 1996 actually, because Canada is shit.

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            Right, my bad. I always forget just how long that shit went on here. It’s just kind of surreal to realize the country you’re living in was doing low key genocide just a couple of decades ago.

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          But why not inform people about US involement then without further censorship? Latin American countries that have gone trough military dictatorships do not censor their crimes including torture and murder, and also publish information on US involvement on it.

          So it seems you agree China/CPC censors historical events.

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            There’s a reason why Latin American countries have been colonized and brutalized by US while China hasn’t. Meanwhile, western states cover up their crimes and rewrite history with the best of them. So, if the choice is between China’s policies and getting colonized by US, I very much support what China is doing.

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              Indeed, that is what CPC calls historical nihilism. China is doing very well economically, so they are doing something right. Too bad on socio-economic inequality and illegal profits like tax evasion though; they seem to be doing something about it… https://www.msn.com/en-xl/money/other/china-e2-80-99s-xi-jinping-sends-e2-80-98warning-signal-e2-80-99-to-the-wealthy-as-he-opens-new-front-in-e2-80-98common-prosperity-e2-80-99-push/ar-AA139N4Z

              Let’s see if it will not make capitalists get very angry.

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                This is the real test of who holds power in China. So far it appears that the government in China is able to keep capitalists on a tight leash, we’ll see if that’ll continue to be the case going forward.

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                I support actual policies China has which have little to do with your deranged fantasies of China. It is kind of sad that a grown ass adult would guzzle propaganda uncritically.

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                    Yeah these articles do sound deranged. First one is literal US state propaganda. Second is BBC, which is a British state propaganda outlet that has been repeatedly caught spreading misinformation regarding China. Again, it’s amazing that people consume this narrative uncritically.

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