Did she intentionally use the word disclude to make linux autists mad?
Run a second correlation on the incomes of these families and the tech literacy of their children and see what you find. I have a hypothesis.
Looking at the comments, it occurs to me that we’re not a representative section of the online community.
Were literally people who went out of their way to not use a conventional/commercial tech product.
I wonder what the % of people on here is who have built a pc, used a raspberry pi or installed Linux compared to the outside world.
I would bet the number is extremely high. I’ve done all these things.
Is the hypothesis that Windows being constantly broken forces you to learn how to fix it ? Because that’s kinda what happened to me 😆
If you’ve had to mess around with EMM386 and HIMEM settings to play Wing Commander 2, you win.
Year of birth matters a lot for this experiment.
Macintosh versus some IBM (or clone) running MS DOS is a completely different era than Windows Vista versus PowerPC Macs, which was a completely different era from Windows Store versus Mac App Store versus something like a Chromebook or iPad as a primary computing device.
I’m curious what her hypothesis is, I don’t think there is a correlation at all personally, seen a ton of people who know nothing about their computers regardless of Mac/Windows as their primary os.
I take it someone has already pointed out that excluded was the word wanted?
I used MacOS for a bit, switched to Windows, then when I was 15 I installed Linux :3
Granted I do very much have autism
I used MS-DOS as a kid and installed Windows 98 when I was 12. Started to use Linux in my 20s.
Granted I am old.
Used DOS and an IBM Selectric II in highschool. Installed windows 3.1.1 in college. W95 at my first job. Upgraded to them all to W98, ME, 2000, 7, 8, 10, and 11
Installed Linux the first time with Unbuntu Warty Warthog. Had the CD mailed to me.
I still managed to fuck up GRUB today again… because I’m very talented apparently.
Can you even call yourself a Linux user if you didn’t fuck up GRUB a few times? 😀
I managed to shoot my windows install like half year ago by deleting the wrong stuff from my EFI partition (which is too darn small TBH) and still haven’t bothered to fix it. CP77, it figures, by now runs just fine under proton.
Happens. Something like ten years ago I decided to boot into windows for the first time in a year or so and you know what happened? It installed a service pack for half an hour. Just sat there, for a year, already having downloaded the files, waiting to be booted to annoy me. I just wanted to play some Skyrim.
Did you really stick it out all the way from Win2K to Windows 7?
Yes I did on my personal machine. I got a Compaq on sale right after XP came out in 2001. It was a really nice build that just kept running back before HP turn the brand into cheap shit.
Then my first son was born in 2004 and money was very tight for a few years. Vista came out in all its glory so I kept the Win 2K for a few more years. When 7 launched I finally replaced it in 2009. It lasted 8 years.
I currently have a 11 year old Win8 laptop that is dual booting Win10 and Mint right now ( Upgraded to a Sata SSD) My main laptop is on Win11 and is 6 years old.
Discluded? Are you sure you don’t mean excounted?
Well it’s not in the Merriam-Webster dictionary, but that’s just one source. I assumed they meant “excluded” because I’ve never seen “discluded” used… Ever?
No, discounted
oh nice, 20% off
Must be hard to understand these terms as an American I guess.
It’s just very rare, the Oxford English Dictionary claims that it is 400 times less common than ‘excluded’. I would expect many Brits and other native speakers to get confused or at least slow down when reading it too.
I actually meant it as a joke about tariffs and discounts, not to shame someone. My bad.
Oh, yeah that makes sense too.
Should’ve written “Mac PCs” just to mess with people.
I learned because I was torrenting and broke the family windows computer. It was either fix it or get grounded.
I switched to Linux after my experience with Windows Millennium Edition. Many people have since referred to me as some sort of programming genius and hacker…I don’t know crap about any of that. I’ve simply followed instructions and referred to the help communities, whenever I’ve had trouble. Using the mainstream distributions (I’m guessing) has kept me from having much trouble.
I think my kids may benefit, as my wife only uses Mac, I have 2 Ubuntus and a Mint, and the kids use Chromebooks at school. We have 2 iPad and a Galaxy tab in the house. 1 kid has an Android phone and the other an iPhone. My wife and I both have flagship Android phones.
Sometimes it’s fun to watch them debate over which systems they prefer, depending on the school projects they work on.
The Picard Maneuver, inciting violence once again, I see. tips fedora
I doubt there would be much difference. I was started on an old brick-style Mac before switching to PC and am now the most technical person in almost any group I enter. It’s not as if Mac devices are entirely void of programmers and other technical users.
Yeah, Apple computers are disproportionately common at tech conferences and meetups.
I’m a backend dev and the last 3 companies I’ve worked for are exclusively apple only. It feels, to me, like apple took over US tech startups. Obviously pretty poor sample size.
I’m pretty old an have been working in IT for almost 20 years now. Back in the day in would be more like this “hey welcome to the team, here’s your PC”. Someone would point to a desktop with Windows (XP) on it. If your company was “good” at IT you would have roaming profiles, so you could use any desktop with your own profile. If you would get a laptop (usually if you did IT consultancy that would be the case) it would be some locked down version of Windows where you would not even have admin rights.
In one of my first jobs a colleague (developer) couldn’t do his job because his pc was so slow and locked down. One day he came into the office with a CD-ROM that had Ubuntu on it. He just wiped the desktop and installed it. As a young office worker I was shocked! You can do that???
Yeah, we’re Apple only as well, but that’s largely because we didn’t want to deal w/ the BS of the corporate images, and they only support Windows. I could probably argue a case for Linux, but we’ve been on Apple for years, so that would be an uphill battle.
My anecdotal observation is the same. Most of my friends in Silicon Valley are using Macbooks, including some at some fairly mature companies like Google and Facebook.
I had a 5-year sysadmin career, dealing with some Microsoft stuff especially on identity/accounts/mailboxes through Active Directory and Exchange, but mainly did Linux specific stuff on headless servers, with desktop Linux at home.
When I switched to a non-technical career field I went with a MacBook for my laptop daily driver on the go, and kept desktop Linux at home for about 6 or 7 more years.
Now, basically a decade after that, I’m pretty much only driving MacOS on a laptop as my normal OS, with no desktop computer (just a docking station for my Apple laptop). It’s got a good command line, I can still script things, I can still rely on a pretty robust FOSS software repository in homebrew, and the filesystem in MacOS makes a lot more sense to me than the Windows lettered drives and reserved/specialized folders I can never remember anymore. And nothing beats the hardware (battery life, screen resolution, touchpad feel, lid hinge quality), in my experience.
It’s a balance. You want the computer to facilitate your actual work, but you also don’t want to spend too much time and effort administering your own machine. So the tradeoff is between the flexibility of doing things your way versus outsourcing a lot of the things to the maintainer defaults (whether you’re on Windows, MacOS, or a specific desktop environment in Linux), mindful of whether your own tweaks will break on some update.
So it’s not surprising to me when programmers/developers happen to be issued a MacBook at their jobs.
Well you have access to a lot of the same CLIs that Linux users get, right?
I’m not a fan, but I know a handful of professional developers who main apples.
