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  • Russian statements of Ukraine not existing as a separate country, people, or identity

    A statement isn’t a genocide, and there isn’t an Uyghur genocide. Wikipedia had to change the article title from “Uyghur genocide” to “persecution of Uyghur in China” because there’s simply no evidence to support the “genocide” thesis.

    To see footage of what a genocide looks like, open up YouTube or tiktok and look at today’s bombings of Gaza. You simply won’t find video footage of violence against Uyghur because there’s not such a thing. Everyone in China has access to a smartphone and if there was remotely any violence taking place, you’d have it plastered all over western media. The “Uyghur genocide” was manufactured by a Christian radical and co-founder of the Victims of Communism Memorial Association called Adrian Zenz, and he did so in collaboration with the US state propaganda “media” Radio Free Asia. I dare you to find any post-2022 evidence from a primary source of any systematic violations of human rights against Uyghur people.

    By calling everything a genocide, we diminish the actual significance of occurring genocides, such as the Gaza and Rohingya ones that you mentioned. I beg you to please get informed on the subject of Uyghur. I dont deny that there likely happened some human right violations such as forced education of thousands of Uyghur, but that happened during a very brief span of time already half a decade ago, and it stopped, and it doesn’t really fit under the definition of genocide at all. Black people in the USA face TODAY much higher numbers of mass imprisonment (up to 1/4 of black males in the US above the age of 30 have been through the prison system) and I don’t see anyone calling that genocide.


  • It doesn’t matter to me if you want to wipe out all the Palestinians, Jews, Ukrainians, Russians, Uighur, or Rohingya

    This reads like “I won’t accept racism towards black people or towards white people, because they’re totally the same”. You’re taking completely incomparable historical events and putting them all together under the broad category of “genocide” to further your narrative. There IS an ongoing genocide of Palestinians, there ISN’T an ongoing genocide of Russians, Ukrainians or Uyghur. Denying false claims of genocide doesn’t amount to advocating genocide. I’m against the genocide of Russians, Ukrainians and Uyghurs, but those things aren’t happening so why even talk about that?









  • What are you even on about? Russia confirmed they took the kids

    What amount of kids are you talking about? I specifically mentioned that this happened occasionally with few children left behind in the frontlines. I also discussed the 16k number thrown around by the Ukrainian government not being backed by any evidence or independent research, and most likely being a propaganda stunt.

    I don’t have an interest in Russia winning, I’m sad for Ukrainian people and for the existence of the war, I’m just asking you to remember the people on the left of the political spectrum that have been asking for negotiations for the past 3 years, and who’ve been labeled as “pro-russian” for asking for negotiations as early as possible. The war will end with negotiations, the negotiations will most likely end up being unfortunate for Ukrainian interests and beneficial to the Russian government, and the 3 years of meat grinder could have been avoided if negotiations had happened from the start.


  • Just the kidnapping of Ukrainian children alone makes it genocidal

    Ah yes, the “kidnapping of 16.000 Ukrainian children” that the United Nations report couldn’t verify and whose only source is the Ukrainian government, which is famously at war with the country it’s accusing. There were some instances of kids in the frontline towns being found by the Russian military and in some cases being sent to Russia, but it’s not a generalised thing mainly because, well, there are usually no fucking children in a frontline.

    And the immediate ceasefire offer was not on any conditions of territorial exchange, just that they would stop shooting while negotiating. Russia categorically denied any stop to the war this year

    Now that Russia is regaining Kursk at a fast pace, how would you expect Russia to want a ceasefire? “Hold up, we’re losing fast, let’s just stop the shooting altogether?”

    Also, why would you say they are losing?

    Because the Russian troops have been consistently advancing for the past two years, and in the past week most of Kursk including the city of Sudzha has been retaken by Russia. Just don’t be surprised when the war ends by means of negotiation and the terms are bad to Ukraine.


  • It’s an unfair war inflicted on the Ukrainian population, but calling it genocidal is crazy. Look at the civilian casualty rate in Ukraine, and compare it with another non-genocidal war like that of the invasion of Iraq.

    They just signaled that they are open to an immediate ceasefire, but the Russians denied the offer.

    They’re open to an immediate ceasefire on their own conditions, which isn’t something you can expect when you’re, you know, losing a war.



  • I didn’t realise that human rights violations were justification for invasion and conquest

    Dumbest take ever. The British and the Americans were right to send troops to France under Nazi rule because it was a mission to liberate French people. The USSR was right to send troops to Czechoslovakia to liberate people from Nazi rule. China was right to send troops to Tibet to free the people from their brutal feudalistic rule.

    I fucking wish that my homeland (Spain) had been “invaded” by English and French troops to fight fascism in the 30s rather than ending up with a homegrown fascist dictatorship.