The ends justify the means?

Hypotheticaly then: if I had a 100% guarantee that murdering all babies would get them into heaven, but you’d go to hell, is it morally right to murder all babies? The ends justify the means, do they not? We need to get babies to heaven! So murder them all!

No, it’s absolutely still monstrous. Because utilitarianism is stupid.

As a resident gen z… I’m right there with ya bud.

Moral objectivism is pretty much the argument that inevitably always ends with an authoritarian regime to “eliminate” the “unethical” people from society. Germany first, and all that.

See but you’re assuming that we agree to your axiomatic premise that there is no moral difference between the two.

We reject your premise. Prove there’s no difference.

More than half of America lives paycheck to paycheck. Vegan options are more expensive. Until you fix the economic crisis and solve poverty you really can’t enforce veganism.

This isn’t even getting into the fact that vegan options are literally nonexistent in many places.

Oh but you don’t care about that because you only care about veganism because it allows you to feel morally superior to others.

“Carnism” that’s the difference between vegans and non-vegans.

Only vegans view their diet as a lifestyle and shit on everyone else who isn’t vegan. We’re not “carnists” we don’t give a fuck really except that we hate vegans. Why? Because you lot are the pushiest, most openly judgemental, arrogant pieces of shit to walk the earth.

You can actually blame Disney for much of this.

I think part of it is the location. Off the coast of Greece? Ships pass through all the time, one’s bound to sink. Law of really large numbers.

But the Titanic? It’s both inaccessible and highly mythologised.

Sure wealth is a factor but it’s only one of many.

I don’t think good riddance needs to be said

I mean that is it too early to say that the world is a better place without these rich fucks wasting resources?

Is it a bit too soon to say “good riddance”

Like it’s awful, people died, that does suck and it is a tragedy… but at the same token, consequences of your actions. If you’re dumb enough to get on an unregulated submersible controlled by an old, off brand Xbox controller and dive to more than double it’s rated depth… don’t be surprised when things go wrong and you die.

!actuallesbians exists as does !talesfromretail. Though they might need to be searched for on your instance before they’re federated.