It baggers my belief how many of you are actively advocating to destroy Europe’s largest and most important economy in favour of Chinese and US businesses, who ABSOLUTELY WILL polute to its fullest potential to ensure it can provide YOU with the products and services you want at the lowest possible price. It will even subsidize and incentive pollution to ensure low pricing.

This way European businesses will die out with EU’s green policies as it cannot compete. Once that happens the old American and Chinese models come to life; seizing that duopoly position and squeeze you while it is benefiting and polluting. You will have absolute no control over it then. With which you seem to have absolutely no problem apparently.

It is so short sited in this chat I want to believe these are not European nationals…

Keep buying your Chinese and American crap and promote pollution in action, but in words you absolutely will deviate from it.

Set a vision for the EU, where do we want to win.

1. Encourage entrepreneurship (fiscally and loosen regulatory pressure)
2. Harmonise and integrate European financial markets
3. Encourage (fiscally) public and institutions to invest into European companies, small and large

These three together should get our future back on track, and make us prosperous again. Other less urgent focus areas:

lower energy costs and improve the net, share the burden and energy between countries Improve train transportation between countries (nice to have) Increase barriers to entry for non productive, non skilled migrants. Increase fines and deductions from European fund distributions to European countries that completely disobey and try to demolish the union from the inside (Hungary)

This is legal? Firing and hiring based on nationality. Wowsers.

Just invest in European headquarterd R&D and Infra and classify as defense spending… who the fuck cares. This spending can benefit European companies a lot, plus it only takes 3 more years and then we can tone it down again… :-)

At least they make it a public debate. The US has no problem doing it anyway, on own citizens on citizens from abroad…

Not speaking of the companies themselves selling your data to anyone and everyone for the highest bid 😂 You might think as long as your name is not attached it is meta data, but give it a thought, what 2 or 3 fields of metadata would you need to identify you. Home address, work address, age, employer, ethnicity, gender, family status, your typical routes, your preferences in every category of goods and services based on online behaviour. They sell it all….

And we care about our governments potentially looking into it… I would start by blocking Meta platforms, TikTok and others to send any of our data outside of our jurisdictions. I would stress to host the data in European datacenters.

This is the typical response.

Do you have the same concerns when using email clients or when using SMS? ;-) Probably not.

Also, technically this problem is very easily solved by making a note in the app if you are going to send something, or receive something, from a non secure app. Like with email.

However tech platforms do not want to accommodate this because it breaks their monopoly. They rather push the narrative they need to complete lock in of the user to secure comms. It is NOT about security for them, they even sell all your data via the back door 😂, it is all about keeping their monopoly and monetising the shit out of that position.

DMA should open up the ecosystem and stop the monopoly of WhatsApp!

Let’s make WhatsApp and messaging in general a service like email, where you can message/email between messaging/email clients (like I can email from Proton to a Gmail user). Why is it impossible to message from my preferred app to another app user. This is technically very easy, and safe. It just that it would ruin WhatsApp’s empire because it brakes the lock-in.

This would mean the whole Meta universe falls apart, which would be awesome as they do not give a crap about anyone’s privacy or rights. they don’t comply by the law and don’t pay taxes.

Let’s break it open!

Everything will be taken care of mate. The Netherlands also had massive gas reserves while it was in the EU. The EU is an economic union. Norway probably also has challenges or flaws and the union can fill those gaps. Similarly you bring something and that fills a gap elsewhere. It is not about your own wealth, it is about the combined wealth. The Netherlands has always contributed a lot to the EU states (especially southern), however we have also gained a lot in social & economic freedom and economic wealth through strong partnerships (our ports also are key assets for German and Belgian industries).

Look at the US; unity creates strength, division creates weakness. Do you think California (with the tech community) or Texas (with its oil fields) would be as strong as they are now if they were independent? Nope.