I like that quote, but it fails to take into account the incentives for each group. The bears wants free and easy accessible foods, which means they will spend a great deal of effort to succeed. The humans are weighing “give a shit about environment” Vs “I don’t care enough to spend two seconds here”

Place a crisp 100 dollar bill inside the trash can and you would have a dramatically different outcome…

If you think we actually invest in infrastructure, you are sorely mistaken… I mean yes, we have a decent charging infrastructure. Driven by Tesla purchase and gas stations following through in order to retain EV customers. So some infrastructure is needed to support that.

But we don’t even have good enough infrastructure to distribute an abundance of hydro electricity from North to the South, while at the same time we export electricity down to central Europe from the South, so prices fluctuates a crap ton.

Don’t get me started on train lines being neglected for the past 50 years. And as most countries we are realising that all our sewage and water lines need a massive renewal…

Maybe we should use more of the oil fund for these tasks, but I believe there would be large inflations if we tossed the oil fund around to fix everything…

Reading this thread is like a waterfall of ignorance and shitshow.

I’m no expert on animal husbandry, and in particular elephant sanctuaries, but I have recently been to one.

That being said, I’m sure there are elephant sanctuaries that treat their elephants bad, just as there are good ones. I can’t say which percentage of the sanctuaries are good/bad and I doubt any of the posters here can enlighten us on that.

What I can say is that these are NOT wild elephants. I was told there are roughly 12k wild elephants in Thailand.

These elephants are bought from farmers that are unable to sustain/feed the elephant from the work they are being used. Apparently it’s not uncommon to earn 500 Baht (ca 15 USD) a day as a farmer, and that is not enough to buy the 10% of body weight in food for the elephant. Elephants are often inhereted as they cost around 1 mill Baht (2,5 for baby).

So… Domesticated elephants can’t survive alone in the wild as they have been bred out some of the skills to manage on their own. So a mismanaged elephant is better off being sold off to a sanctuary that can care for it until it dies. Which is the purpose of sanctuaries - put an elephant out to pasture.

The sanctuary I visited only had female elephants and was but interested in breeding elephants - because they are not in it to add more domesticated elephants, but rescue elephants that need help. I’m sure other sanctuaries manage male elephants, I can’t say how they deal with mating and pregnancies in regards to rescue other elephants in need Vs “free elephant” for tourist trap.

TL;DR Post in this thread acts like domesticated elephants are a wild animal like a boar. It’s more like a cow that weighs 4-6 tonnes. Death by cow occurs every year, you don’t go screaming about that when it happens between your bites of hamburger. It’s of course horrible for the family of the poor girl being killed. Hopefully humans and elephants will get the treatment they need and deserve.

I hope it was a genious piece of code that was miles ahead of what it replaced.

And still it got rejected 😄

Its always more costly and less efficient to produce new things in smaller quantity than large numbers. So electric car manufacturers at this point in time costs more to produce from an environment perspective. As the number of electric cars go up, my understanding is that this will compare to fossil fuel car production.

Imo you cannot compare these two as its impossible to be as efficient as a large scale manufacturer until you become one yourself.

Two plus two equals five for large values of two