hmm fair ig

willing to apply effort for windows is not the same as willing to apply effort to learn linux. the issue is mindset, wanting to exert energy on something doesnt mean wanting to exert energy on anything

hmm, yea i do see that windows just has been similar enough since its early days. with just more hidden and “renewed” same things. diversity and changes in linux are quite different from that. ubuntu’s early days probably wont translate experience into current ubuntu, windows 98 is gonna translate atleast a bit to windows 11

thats kinda the thing tho, the person states their wife uses web based. so the offline solution doesnt need to be all-in-one

yea and if u think that ‘switch’ is not deidcated time to learn then idek. im not saying windows is easier or its bs its easier to bypass. but each step of window’s bullshit for a used to user is gonna be less effort than a switch. if someone cant do that effort (for any reason), there isnt a way around it

as stated in the thread, i use windows at work

i do use onlyoffice when i have to work with MSOffice docs, its very similar. but the emphasis on AI has irked me too much to make it a regular use

appreciated, reality checks are best served plain

ah fuck, i did this

oh im not disagreeing with that. windows is not easy to learn (as i said in my comment response to my comment above) after u stop being used to it. i doubt its easier if u are new to it either. they definitely just bought their way into making it the status quo. like how chrome did with browsing the web. or google with gmail. or google with etc etc.

what i am saying is that ignoring the “adopt and learn” part isnt benefiting anyone

im sorry but LibreOffice might have all the features of word but it certainly has a really bad user experience. i write often and libreoffice writer is difficult to say the least, not because of lack of features but a lack of most ‘little things’ and ‘tweaks’. i can definitely see someone switching to libreoffice from word, but saying its not ‘hard’ is untrue or a biased take in my opinion and using both suites (more familiar with libre though lmao).

i do agree that for a mostly web based user as is commonplace nowadays, a preloaded linux thats been decently built is gonna be a significantly easy switch.

on a slight tangent, but linux for me was a way to rebuild my love for computers after windows systematically fucked things. and i really enjoy the learning process. so personally i still encourage people to spend the time in the learning process atleast a bit

and i also say this as someone who is required to use windows at work. i despise windows, its so much harder for me to use windows given linux been my daily driver for a long time. im annoyed at powershell, explorer, clunky shortcut behaviors, etc just about every second im on windows. its a nightmare difficulty for me, but i also refuse to ever relearn windows stuff. i do remember a time when it wasnt annoying as fuck to use, could be nostalgia or that people just adopt.

using windows as a linux user is a nightmare. but if someone is adopted to windows, the opposite is gonna be similar no matter what.

no, im a linux user. if someone doesnt want to dedicate time to adopt and learn, linux isnt “easier”. even if linux was as easy as windows (idk it can even be compared tbh); its different. different requires time and effort, if someone cant do that (for any reason, this isnt a judgement), its not an easy move.

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nah its “the fuck” as others have stated

chrome, mcaffee, pirate bay, utorrent. am i back in 2010

hold on let me use my 50 different materials 3d printer that has to be bigger than a car to print one. or for me to learn how to make a car from its parts

agree. whenever i critique disney its always the company and the highest management that run it (unless specificed otherwise)