If I ever broke the main controller on my Wii U (which Nintendo shut off online services for now) you needed to buy an entire new console

Another factor though was that I don’t need to play yet another Mario sequel. As a character, he’s actually not that interesting (and a bit of a cuck if we’re being honest)

I used to be loyal to Nintendo

No idea why anyone still supports them after the joycons were never really fixed on switch 1

Didn’t even notice it

Yeah. As already mentioned steam frame doesn’t need a computer

That being said, there are a few good games, but also lots of shit ones

Steam frame. Already have a rog Ally x and dock. Would be nice to have better performance though

I have no idea why there hasn’t been criminal investigations of reddit

There were basically childporn subs in the past, and a lot of incitement of criminal behavior.

They’ve gotten away with a lot

I sold my quest 2’s in preparation for this

Will happily re buy pistol whip on steam

The electric motor is watching you?

My go pro broke.

At this point, I just use my phone, and there are cheaper options

Also, when I see a fish eye lens in a video, I switch off immediately, because I know immediately that what I’m watching is heavily exaggerated

Well fuck

I grew up on games which shared the same monitor playing with my brother. Some were shared control where mouse and keyboard were simply split to do slightly different things

Apparently they weren’t multiplayer though. Despite there being 2 players controlling the same game.i literally have examples of games where nobody needs to compete

Nevermind the fact that the API allows entirely independent handling of controls too so it’s not the same as pure streaming.

It’s a great idea to anyone who knows about it

I’m not responding again… At the end of the day , people can check the links I sent to get the actual facts.

The only thing that happened is that I widened the goalposts because I thought of it more and games I have played to include even more things other than the original things I thought of.

Good luck with your crusade.

If you say so. Lol

No. SteamWorks only provides matchmaking and listing, not hosting.

And streaming/shared screen apparently. And input control over the internet (which addresses 2 major issues). So, you were wrong… You just didn’t anticipate it would change the context of the game so you only need to deal with it on a local level (which is actually brilliant)

Just admit its a cool feature. You don’t need to give a shit about steam to admit that.

What do you call it when 2 different players are controlling a game… The term is multiplayer. And I even gave examples of games (like Proverb), where real multiplayer would be very trivial to add using this. Not every multiplayer game needs to be split screen, or totally independent (particularly casual gaming).

Play together.

You can get it direct from the features page of the steam works api

Where can you buy games where you don’t provide that info?

You’d need it any time they pay by credit card

If it wasn’t steam you’d be likely cheering it

I gave you a list of practical examples, you’re now pretending they don’t count.

Even ignoring my examples, it’s still easier to develop online support for any local multiplayer game because it allows you basically deal with the game on a local level instead of worrying as much about dealing with the online aspect

It doesn’t have to solve every problem. But there is no solution that does

Like I said, I only found out from a developer who used it for their game. So this isn’t me guessing, but from a developer who seemed pretty f’ing amazed by it. And I researched it soon after

It works by streaming the game and basically just manages shared input. However, you are correct, I should have said ONLINE multiplayer (and I’ll edit that).

However, given this was a big thing a few years back, and the person I responded to “couldn’t even think how that would work” says a lot imho. https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/steam-s-biggest-feature-for-indie-devs-is-its-least-talked-about specifically

I’ll also add, I’m playing a game similar to minesweeper at the moment (proverbs). Shared mouse/keyboard support would be good for some couples playing. There is no concept of multiplayer implemented, and yet, something like this could add very basic support quickly. Broken Age 2 I’m also playing, which is a point and click adventure game. I’d never play it multiplayer, but would also be cool to play with your girlfriend and you take control during different parts. Or, you can play games where there is simultaneous mouse / keyboard control normally. Instead of only 1 player doing both, you could split over the internet. Couch Co-op, even better, as both players are totally independent.

These are all applications which any “games dev” should certainly be able to think of immediately. Instead, it feels like, they just wanted to talk smack.

It works by streaming the game and the API basically just handles shared Input. That’s why it’s easy, because its basically screen sharing with enhancements. Playing multiplayer doesn’t necessarily even need to be split screen. Another game I’m playing now is proverb (which is like minesweeper), which is a puzzle game. You could safely share a mouse in it, or even adapt to have 2 different mice + remote play. Even though it definitely isn’t multiplayer, the paradigm used would work fine as a shared puzzle multiplayer game for casual gaming couples

I have edited what I said to better indicate I meant “Online multiplayer”, in case that was the confusion… But, i’m seriously doubting it, given that they “didn’t even know how it would work”, and their first reaction wasn’t “oh, remote play”. Also, kind of weird that they attacked me, were condescending, but, when I provided evidence, that destroyed their claim (remember, multiplayer could just be one user controlling the keyboard, and one user the mouse), suddenly, my behavior is bad.

More info is in: https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/steam-s-biggest-feature-for-indie-devs-is-its-least-talked-about

I’m also playing broken age at the moment (a point and click). Again, you could throw it into remote play, and have multiple people taking the reins at different parts

EDIT: To be clear, I am referring to converting a offline game to online multiplayer. However, it could be argued that in some games, that integration could be as half-arsed as allowing mouse control for the other player (there was one game I played where that was the case, but can’t remember which one).

This isn’t a hidden feature AT ALL. It’s extremely well known.

1. Remote Play together. It’s literally on the FRONT of the steamworks feature page https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/remoteplay#2
2. There is a literal store page for supported games. https://store.steampowered.com/remoteplay_together
3. I don’t develop games (other than uni). And, apparently, I know the steamworks feature set better than a “game dev”, because i find it interesting
4. When I was told this by a game dev and how it was so easy, my first reason was to look it up and confirm it. I guess as a developer, I find stuff like this interesting. Some I guess don’t…
5. If you can be arsed looking up the API in the link I posted, it should be completely obvious how it works to even non-devs (steam input is yet another good thing on Steamworks).

I guess that confirms though, that they’re not a monopoly though, if you’ve been operating fine without touching steamworks.

Maybe now is a good time for you to actually check the steamworks API, since it clearly has features that benefit you.

EDIT: ONLINE multiplayer.

It’s weird how people who haven’t even researched Steamworks are suddenly professionals.

If you speak to actual developers who use steam, they’ll point out that with a few lines of code, they can turn a game into multiplayer, and add features which allow them to compete against larger publishers, whose business models are often just buying other gaming studios. Of course companies like Ubisoft and warner bro’s would be pissed. They’re not known for improving things at all for gamers lol.

If you speak to users like me, i don’t give a shit about the pricing that much honestly. There are games I own on XBOX, Steam and meta, some duplicates.

I use steam because I can play games I bought 10 years, and Steam have even allowed them to work on Linux by integrating proton (you can no longer identify what platform they were designed for). And my saved games work on my Rog Ally, computer, and I can still load saved games from ages ago.

I can use pretty much any controller, and load Emudeck on a Steam Deck.

I’d actually argue that recently, Steam is the best thing that has happened to linux. If we didn’t have them, we’d be screwed.

But hey, you go pretend you’re an anarchist protecting gamers by fighting back against a company that has been good for gaming… Maybe go install epic store or uplay or whatever lol. Then, maybe you’ll understand why actual gamers defend steam. Go enjoy some of those sweet DRM protection schemes that make being a pirate a better experience than actually buying the game.

And whilst you do that, I’ll finish the second half of Broken Age (which I purchased 12 years ago) on Linux via Proton (and its so f**king seamless).

Get a plb instead… If the application is hiking

That walled garden has a huge welcome mat and door.

Other stores can literally add an icon in steam and add their purchased games to the steam interface (like emudeck does)

And there is no attempt by steam to block you from the desktop to install other things, or even other stores (like ps5, switch or Xbox).

Finally, consoles are likely more popular these days. One of the prerequisites of a monopoly would be that you’ve got a majority of the share overall and can dictate the market… Steam can’t really