Bezerker03

A very quick search of Gaza and Wikipedia gives you all the info you need. The last cease fire was put in place May 13th 2023 prior to Oct 7th. Prior to that there was one in 2019 that lasted for 48 hours on paper before being breached by Palestinian militants. There were limits skirmishes until April 2023 when more rockets were fired by Hamas and Lebanon. Israel launched operation shield and arrow and then that May ceasefire prevailed until Oct 7th when Israel declared Hamas action a full on declaration of war and decided to stop pulling the punches and just end this shit.

Why would they do ceasefire though? Every time they have done it they’ve broken it.

Like it’s been tried several times now. And it hasn’t worked.

After Oct 7th what can you do? The footage from that day that we’ve seen is beyond some of the sickest shit we’ve seen in years. And it’s just the tip of the ice berg compared to what is being aired to governments.

Israel literally has rockets shot at it daily and then these so called “freedom fighters” came and killed elderly and tried to chop their heads off with a garden hoe while he’s still alive.

Let alone the fact that many of the hostages were cheered on and taken by citizens (not Hamas) and the citizens returned escapees back to Hamas… It’s really hard not to believe that Israel absolutely needs to remove and destroy Hamas. It’s also not unreasonable to expect them to attack Hamas infrastructure before sending in ground troops, especially when the citizens are on their side.

The alternative is … Ask for another ceasefire and watch the rockets keep coming?

Because one side went into homes and kidnapped kids and mothers and dragged them back to Gaza after being gang raped. The other arrested people actually committing crimes. What is with people trying to “not make assumptions” about a terror group?

The people trying to go around claiming that Hamas just defending themselves from colonizers are no better than Sandy Hook deniers and claiming crisis actors lol.

They did report on it.

To quote one article:

She was 18 when she was arrested and held in the Damon prison in Haifa, accused of stabbing an Israeli settler with a knife.

Tldr most of the other crimes are:

threatening security illegally entering Israel without a permit throwing stones supporting terrorism associating with hostile/unknown organisations.

Tldr it may seem weird to us, but women and children under these terrorist regimes are brought up to do terrible things and may not even realize it. Though Israel did say nobody convicted of murder would be freed though people convicted of attempted murder were eligible.

I mean if they want to get government to do something… Storm actual government and protest there. These were weak and "safe’ protest alternatives that don’t actually help a cause and actively turns many people against it.

If you feel your government is not responding well the message should be made to government. Not your fellow citizen trying to get to work or in this case visit sick family.

Israel is defending itself as well. They just have a better counter attack success rate. Or did we forget that Ukraine also wants to bomb Moscow etc. (and has launched drones etc).

The key difference is one is a gov one is a terror org who represents their gov.

I mean after what happened it’s going to turn a lot of people dark. No different than in the states after 9/11. I legit know people that signed up just to “kill some sand you know what’s to get pay back”. That’s fucked up yes. And wrong. But hardly unexpected just like I expect citizens of Gaza to enmase celebrate the death of Jews now.

It is sadly the reality of the situation. Only someone fucked up can see that and the other videos from that day (example the slaughtered elderly at the bus stop etc) and think “Oh Hamas are the good guys.”

This is news because she was one of the first videos that went viral that day. And to this day there are still people denying it that she died and that she is home safe. There was even a so called interview with her mother who said she was alive. They even went so far to say the truck video was them bringing her to a hospital (ya know because you beat half naked in her underwear body with your sandals to administer first aid).

The Internet used “her being alive” as one of the first propaganda pieces to try to paint the photo that nothing happened Oct 7 and Israel are all liars.

Turns out it’s exactly as the videos made it look. Just like the woman being led into a jeep with dark drried blood all over the ass of her pants was probably bleeding from mass rape even though the Internet tried to find every excuse for their behaviors.

Let’s go with that. Even though it’s twisted logic.

If Israel is a terrorist state that still means that Hamas is going after non government officials and it is still wrong. Unless you buy into the logic that the citizens of Israel are guilty as well as they should have done something to stop the so called terrorist state actions. Sure. Let’s go with that. By that logic, so are the citizens of Gaza and thus nothing is fucked up as they are all guilty.

Or the more likely, the guys shooting rockets daily made out of supplies from foreign aid money and keeping basic supplies from their citizens are actually bad guys and terrible people and their propaganda is bullshit.

It all falls apart when you look at the differences. Israel even if it’s selfish government reasons to do it have been taking care to protect it’s citizens where it can. Hamas however has rejected multiple peace attempts, broken the cease fires nearly every time, and keeps supplies from their citizens then goes on the internet posting about how their hospitals have no fuel when they have a huge stockpile.

Even if they are oppressed and colonized people who are only being freedom fighters (they aren’t). Under zero context there’s no reason to side with them other than some narrow sense of virtue signalling .

If they were going full Arab spring and trying to regain their freedom maybe, but they are literally out there in the streets spitting on the corpses of women. Everywhere. And I’m sure some Israeli would do the same because they are fucked up too. But not at this scale.

Hamas are the terrorists preventing citizens from fleeing and using them as shields. They are at fault. Israel is not targeting civilians they are targeting Hamas outposts which Hamas purposefully puts in civilian zones hoping for protection.

Hamas literally wants to wipe all Jewish people from existence and started to do so. So far every one of the stories of what Hamas did to the Jewish folks has turned out to be true. Most of the Hamas ones have turned out to be bs.

Let’s be clear. Jews haven’t lived in Gaza since 2005. Gaza was given millions and millions of dollars in aid and supplies since. Instead of building a flourishing society, they built tunnels, bombs, and shoot rockets daily at Israel trying to kill Jews even though they don’t live in Gaza. There are no “colonizing settlers” for nearly 2 decades.

Enough is enough. Peace is not an option here it’s just a blanket that the bad guys use (and break the treaties for) all the time just to get a reprieve when sht gets real.

Because the neighboring countries did that in the past in various forms and it fucked them all up in some manner. These are not normal people. They’re twisted by decades of living under war or terrorist rule. Their population is so young because everyone old died that half the people alive never actually experienced a stable life. They know nothing but this. As a result they are really hard to integrate.

A lot more are going to be literally incinerated if this escalates. What is happening now is a fraction of what can happen.

Technically the manufacturer is making a tool with the intention of firing a projectile at high velocity and that projectile can and usually is used as a weapon.

Not a mention of defiance. Great game. Great show.

Never forget the guys who founded hi rez come from ncr a cash register company. They believe in money first.

I loved tribes and they killed it for smite. I actually loved smite a ton and played it a lot.

The only Delta force game that is worth mentioning came out in 1998.

But bg3 is a multiplayer inspired game.

Bg 1 and 2 set the rpg world on fire. 3 lived up to the hype.

Back in the day it was THE distro. Not so much these days.