The problem with using google instead of open source is that one day your shit suddenly has ads or ceases to exist.

So, if you never do anything else and authorities don’t give a shit; nothing?

So what is the utility of protests, of asking?

Some of us cry when climaxing. Maybe don’t be a dick about it.

No, a nice herbal garnish is pretty nice to have.

I think ‘writing stuff in a word processor’ is something every high school kid did, even if it’s generally web based nowadays.

In fact, everyone in this thread has done basically that.

Your mom read a good deal more than just capital!

Oooh sick burn! I got you!

Hey is… Is she still mad about the thing?

Your mom is plenty serious!

Your mom has already done whatever the rest ot what you said said!

Done means done, no means no, and I am done engaging woth you on serious topics, because you are not a serious person.

I know you are but what am i?

(Thinks he understands everything because he read one book)

You gave one that isn’t and one that was so broad and nonspecific it was just a restatement of the idea, because you can’t separate concept from reality. I’m no longer interested in discussing politics with you; you have lost my respect.

Yes, very decentralized.

Coordination does not require, and in fact is hampered by, a master! That’s literally the point of the book I suggested! Everyone can coordinate! It works better that way!

thing you said like it’s a gotcha, after pretending I understand what the fuck youre talking about and ignoring all the actual science and math because it’s in a big scary book that would be too hard to read and just pretending I understand is easier.

We’re done here.

Also probably on roughly what should be done to everyone in power right now, and other Nazis.

I’m in favor of having fun with it, though.

Not a bug, working as intended.

I wasn’t actually the one advocating specifically that program, and I’m not interested in arguing a Wikipedia article with somebody who’s never actually read the literature and understands none of the underlying concepts.

You’re reading to confirm what you believe, looking for key words, not to acquire new information. Thats how Hitler said to read in his book. I urge you to better reading material.

If you’re too addled by the 20s to make it through a doorstopper pike 'brain of the firm’¹ there was a podcast called ‘general intellect unit’ where a couple Marxists explored the concepts and went over the key points. Listen to most of that at minimum.

¹not a dig at you; I probably couldn’t at this point. Shit’s fucked. Kind of afraid to check.

‘Materialism’ is not just an aesthetic and flavor of idealism to project, dear.

I grew up watching ‘how its made’ while i did my homework, being babysat by my (pedo) uncle who was in industrial real estate, wandering around warehouses and factory floors¹ no sane responsible adult would have allowed a child near, and learned a non-zero amount of mechanical engineering. I am not a specialist, I do not have a degree in this, but this topic was one of my comfort foods as a kid, and kind of a special interest. I do have a real, if not comprehensive, knowledge base. I have been in factories where complex electronics were made.

I tend to take every opportunity to look in on industrial production, because I think it’s cool. I’m not an expert, but I’m not talking fucking hypotheticals here. I’m talking about a composite of real places I’ve been, real people ive known and in some cases fucked who did these kinds of work. I have some actual knowledge, and youre talking about ideal heroic forms of ‘manager’ derived from a russian poster² who never as far as i know actually set foot in a factory and died like a century ago as if that information is as good as modern (or at least living memory) on the ground actual conditions.

Yes there are other things. A car takes a longer supply chain, and a scaled up version of this process still works. Maybe you need a premises matrix or slack server and a local amateur sports league instead of team lunches and an SMS chat. The tools dont even need to be made; they exist already. I have used them.

How the fuck would dedicated ‘managers’ wrangle supply chains better? Why is the factory managing the whole supply chain? Is the supply chain entirely passive and automated and lacking agency? This just sounds like ‘great man’ fetishism. Get over that shit.

Your concept of management may as well involve phlogiston pneuma and agape.

This may shock you, but some of us see materialism as a useful tool for understanding what we see in the world, and not just an identity to project into everything around us in a manner indistinguishable from idealism.

¹non-operational, still no clue how I’m alive

²admittedly one of the greats.

DNC and GOP

Okay what’s the second one?