lol, imagine a grandma installing something. If she is, she’s not your average grandma.

You probably want to ask a Pro Office user. I’ve just used Libre Office. Worked fine for my papers in school and edits my resume just fine.

Yep, you learn how to get things done. If your goal is to use something that’s strictly for Windows, then probably you should be using Windows. Same as MacOS, same as Linux, and same as any other OS out there. Same things could be said for touch screen vs. MnK vs. controller.

Probably just the recent converts that are still 1 foot in and 1 foot out. I don’t keep a Windows VM. If something ever came up over the years, I have to decide if it’s worth setting up a VM. I think even 3 years back, I was able to update my PS5 controller loading up the update tool in WINE (Bottles). Didn’t even need a Windows VM then.

Yeah, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. There is a shitload of frontend developers that specialize in web standards and technologies. Electron was developed to take advantage of that deep pool of frontend developers. The side affect, is that other OSes can just support electron and they get the developers and the applications for free. Which has been a major boon for Linux users and those looking to escape Microsoft’s vendor lockin strategy. Today might be different, but in the past, nobody was intending to support Linux by creating electron apps. If they cared so much or it was so important, they would have been using Qt and GTK prior to Electron.

A few hiccups here and there, but I think of it like growing pains that will eventually go away.

Yeah, once you learn the Linux way of doing things or the KDE way of doing something, after some time, it’ll just be old hat. Just like how it was learning the Windows or MacOS way of doing things.

That same user, Oh I need MacOS so I can edit pictures of my kids. I’ll have to buy all new hardware, $2000 dollars for a MacBook no problem. When they try Linux, What the heck, everything works except my cheap Wifi card. This is unacceptable, all of Linux has failed and is completely unusable by 100% of the computing world. Buying a 20 dollar USB dongle that is Linux compatible is completely out of the question for them.

It’s great that there is overlap in hardware support between the three Oses, but lets not lose perspective. Imagine a Windows user complaining that MacOS had failed because MacOS doesn’t have full support for all the hardware in their Windows machine. Or vice versa.

If what you want is Windows. Just use windows. For the few times I’ve had to use Windows over the decades, while frustrating and laborious, I don’t expect it to be like my Linux distro. If a Linux distro has the features, utility, software, or ease of use you want. Then by all means, buy a Linux compatible machine. Most distro’s install in 5-10 minutes or buy a prebuilt Linux machine. Nobody expects MacOS to be Windows or Windows to be MacOS. And why would you? Just use the OS you need. Imagine expecting MacOS to be a “free Windows clone”. I’m sure the MacOS users would be screaming bloody murder if Apple thought that was a good idea.

Get out of here. “Everyone”??? Well then, “everyone” can put their effort and their money behind the solution they want. Nobody is stopping them. If they do nothing, then they made their choice. That’s how FOSS works. If other people are paying and doing the work, while you and “everyone” does nothing, you have no room to complain.

“Everybody’s adopting other solutions. Our idea must be bad. Let’s consider other other solutions and decide if we want to continue with our current implementation.” /FTFY

I’m ded.

That’s actually a great feature. Not suggested near enough. Unfortunately, as easy as it is, it’s still well above the average user who just wants to open a browser and check their web page. I think average users need to be encouraged to just get help from a friend or a LUG, just like the late 90’s and early 2000’s for Windows.

That’s how FOSS works. Good ideas get adopted, bad ideas lose adoption. Even I dropped Gnome because of their bike shedding. This is the way.

You got me. Average FOSS user here. Be the change you want to see or make the changes you want to see. Stop whining and complaining. Pretty simple.

You have the opportunity to be the change you want to see or make the change you want to see. Whining and crying about it doesn’t help anybody. It’s time you learned that.

Sounds like a good opportunity to add the features in the way you see fit.

If’s FOSS, don’t cry about it, implement the feature the way you think is best; just like every one else.

Interesting, you think the normal case is that people don’t upgrade their devices. I wouldn’t have expected that from someone in 2025.

Color me shocked snap steam users are on 24.04. 61 active devices. Very representative I’m sure.

Exactly, it’s just people finding an excuse to complain about. It’s more like an extension of the Unix wars or the editor wars or the browser wars. People have to find a reason to justify their choice.