Ooh, nice! That was the point when I jumped on the Android bandwagon, the death throes for Nokia were kinda’ showing by that point…

Yeah, I remember the closed nature of their system was the main thing which killed any planned OS updates for the 5800 - they were planning on adding more video support, but nothing through which to deliver it, so they just kinda’ dropped the whole thing. I was left with Symbian 60, I believe:-?

And by the time they did start opening it up, with the Es, it was already too late, because the Marketing Wars began.

I haven’t seen the Blackberry movie, thanks for recommending it! I remember those being a big thing, too, mum always wanted one (and a PT Cruiser, so take it with a grain of salt) and I seem to remember pretty much everyone giving a Blackberry-like a shot. Nokia certainly had a full physical QWERTY model, one of my exes had one. But I remember it being, like… no different than the standard keypad Nokia at the time, except with a wider screen and a keyboard.

Jeesus, that genuinely sounds painful!:( I’m very sorry I honestly don’t know what to say… I mean, I understand it’s just A Thing™, but some things are more than just “things”…

That was my Goal Phone, yes! Either that, or the N8, but the 5800 was the only thing I could afford at the time:))

They were really nice phones, properly into “smartphones” by that point - the 5800 was more like a… clever phone:))

Oh, nooo!:( I’m so sorry, that’s how I lost my 5800, too! Got mugged at night, ffs…

Which, honestly, was another thing I’ve come to love about the old Nokia! They weren’t just phones, they were accessories as well! Every model had a clear personality and a target audience! I remember my mum had a thing for changing her phone often, especially with models only found in other countries (she would find THE weirdest salespeople, who brought in phones from friggin’ Spain and such, and they were way cheaper than retail), and… while I don’t agree with her somewhat rampant consumerism, I gotta say, every single model had a Vibe!

Besides my 5800, my other favourite from Nokia was my steel 6303 Classic. That was a downright sexy phone, and rugged to boot!

Edit: as opposed to the contemporary “my glass slab of phone from Asus has more personality than Samsung’s glass slab of phone because they set the cameras differently…” I made myself sad…

Edit 2: Smartphone Banana phone (I’m talkin’ the Matrix kind, with foldable screen, turns into AR glasses, and watch/wristlet-type thing when retracted!

Well, I can’t speak for that one as I’ve never used it (nice though, looks like a proper Nokia should, gone through war and still running fine!), but the 5800 was a completely new experience for me in terms of phone-mounted speakers. Like, this was like a miniaturised sound system. The levels were unexpectedly balanced, the speakers were mounted well apart (at either end of the phone lengthwise), the stereo definition was very clear and dynamic, and it was loud and crisp enough to use as background music generator for a light social gathering, like a dorm room mini-party, setting the mood for… other activities, etc. without sounding like frying bacon.

Edit: I’m not a “play stuff through phone speakers” kinda’ person, but the 5800, the Nexus 6, and the Zenfone 10 are the only phones with speakers so good, that they determined me to make an exception:))

Oh, maan… I still remember my 5800, I loved that phone to pieces… Excellent speaker system for the time (it was genuinely stereo and had a bit of meat on the sound, too!), my first touchscreen (which was a bit frustrating due to my thick logs, but worked perfectly with the stylus), and it was also my very first experience with multiplayer on a phone! Used to play that default racing game with a year mate in Uni, and it was very fun! And the OS was as an OS should be: so smooth as to not even register with the user!

Edit: oh, and the full QWERTY was very nice, although I was fresh off the keypad, so it was a bit awkward.

Really haven’t heard it used in these contexts before! Thank you!

On the plus side, it’ll be a while before my brain rewires the context associated with the word, so now I’ll amuse myself imagining every political figure addressed as such wearing Pope hats and stuff.

(yep, still me, this is my second account, trouble getting into the other one, for some reason)

Yep, genuinely only ever heard it when talking in a monarchic context, about kings/queens, Lords/Ladies and such, and in a Church context - as mentioned, when referring to the Pope, and Archbishops and such (remembered this latter part only now that I thought about it again).

Funny, “Excellency” is what feels over the top to me, but may be due to the contexts in which I’ve heard it used - circumstances which have much more pomp and pageantry associated with them.

Anyway, thank you! Learn something new every day!

(yep, still me, this is my second account, trouble getting into the other one, for some reason)

I do agree with you that politics have become mostly circus without much bread, but I’d say we should never give up on our gift of making light of the hardships.

I mean, dunk as it may be, it’s a good one. I’d even go as far as calling it a sick burn and a smart jab!

Edit: plus populism is the playing field now, memes and smartass quips are how you win the base over. I’m not saying I agree with this particular way of going about things, but reality is undeniable nonetheless. We’d be wise to master the tools.

She’s the perfect political distraction, a loud moron who spouts some of the vilest and downright stupidest things a human being will ever hear. She deserves to be kept out of politics because she is a moron, her political leanings needn’t even be included in considering her capabilities. Either way, it is a sad time in our history, the proliferation of Right-Wing ideas (and I’m talking about the hateful shit) in general should never have happened again.

Only if you swallow.

Oh, no, they’re definitely picky:)) One of my exes had an Amstaff with whom I’d developed a much healthier relationship than with her owner. My ex also dropped off her dog at my place for weeks so she could take some emotional space. I didn’t care, that dog and I got along like two peas in a pod.

Anyway, point is, she was a VERY astute dog and we became fast friends. I’d always let her “inspect” whatever I was feeding myself and I’d usually get a huff and a butt as remarks about my food. She didn’t even want to lick the crap I was eating at the time (lots of take-out, lots of processed foods, etc.) However, she LOVED my potato salad, and a lot of other home-cooked dishes. Seldom the meat, though.

And not all that bad, actually! I’m dead serious, there were times when I caught myself sneaking out a fistful from my cat’s food bag and munching like a rodent. Once you get accustomed to the taste (which, in most cases, tastes like really tough bread flavoured with saltless steak, or saltless boiled carrot, or saltless fish), it makes for a decently filling snack.

Dog kibble has even less flavour than cat kibble, mostly tastes slighly savoury and bland, though. Which I find weird and, like… all dogs I’ve met enjoyed a plethora of flavours, wouldn’t they do the same with their kibble?

The whole album is a work of art!

I honestly don’t even know if there is a track I’d call my favourite, it’s like every one is its own thing. They all have shared elements, but the energy, the intent, the shape of it is always different from one song to the next, I love them all!

And thank you for letting me know KEXP have a donation thing going! I always consumed mostly single songs and, to my shame, never looked any deeper into things!

You’re very welcome, glad it landed!:D

These people make me want to be the best imperfect Me I can be, I swear. I’ve been so lucky to find bands which went to the places where I’ve been and can relate.

Wdit: also, I have THE biggest crush on Marisa. There we go, sins forgiven!

Bhah! Good.

You’ve highlighted exactly why I also fundamentally disagree with the current trend of all things AI being for-profit. This should be 100% non-profit and driven purely by scientific goals, in which case using copyrighted data wouldn’t even be an issue in the first place… It’d be like literally giving someone access to a public library.

Edit: but to focus on this specific instance, where we have to deal with the here-and-now, I could see them receiving, say, 60-75% of what they have now, hassle-free. At the very least, and uniformly distributed. Again, AI development isn’t what irks most people, it’s calling plagiarism generators and search engine fuck-ups AI and selling them back to the people who generated the databases - or, worse, working toward replacing those people entirely with LLMs! - they used for those abhorrences.

Train the AI to be factually correct instead and sell it as an easy-to-use knowledge base? Aces! Train the AI to write better code and sell it as an on-board stackoverflow Jr.? Amazing! Even having it as a mini-assistant on your phone so that you have someone to pester you to get the damned laundry out of the washing machine before it starts to stink is a neat thing, but that would require less advertising and shoving down our throats, and more accepting the fact that you can still do that with five taps and a couple of alarm entries.

Edit 2: oh, and another thing which would require a buttload of humility, but would alleviate a lot of tension would be getting it to cite and link to its sources every time! Have it be transformative enough to give you the gist without shifting into plagiarism, then send you to the source for the details!