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    You cannot follow Lemmy users, only communities. AFAIU, Lemmy just does not do anything with that request.

    To share my experience : my Friendica account is set up to automatically boost anything @Liwott produces, and it does so as soon as this instance is aware of the Lemmy posting, but that does not always happen automatically. Sometimes I have to search my Lemmy post on Friendica, and only then it is boosted. Note that I do follow my Lemmy account from here














  • You are projecting what you consider bad to the majority of users.

    I did not use any definition of “bad” here. I said that people staying there is not a sign of their superiority wrt federated network. The preexisting large userbase suffices to explain why it keeps being large.

    They are not staying there because of “network effect”, they are staying because their “few basic functionalities” are satisfied.

    Except that the few basic functionalities (posting, commenting, reacting, following) are not what sets them apart from their federated counterparts.

    And when they look for alternatives, federated social media will always be inferior to centralised solutions.

    You are stating this like a fact, yet you have not explained what the big advantage of centralization is. You actually start from the hypothesis that centralisation is the core thing that everyone wants, even needs.

    You have become the same thing you wanted to destroy.

    Yes, and that went pretty fast. A few comments ago the majority of users were the developpers themselves, and suddenly they are a crowd whose fate is decided by a restricted elite.

    Again, what is your better alternative?



  • I meant that the people who actually make use of federation are almost exclusively programmers. The rest of the users don’t benefit from federation.

    Curious to see what numbers you are basing yourself on. I think most users use federation, as in communicate with users on other instances. As a fapsi.be user, don’t you mostly communicate with users from other instances?

    It’s okay to let a few hands hold all the power, as long as their interests align with ours. Your philosophical disagreement with this concept has very little effect on reality.

    What effect on reality does your agreement have though? If you want to trust benevolent dictators to stay benevolent and choose benevolent successors, let’s agree to disagree.

    That’s not what i said,

    It was suppose to be an example to the statement :

    Why do you think all of the Fediverse has the same boring demographic of privalaged keyboard warrior programmers pretending like they are leading the revolution against big tech? And why is it that whenever another demographic arrives as refugees, they immediately demand defederation or die out immediately?

    Lemmygrad don’t want to defederate from a population of “keyboard warrior programmers”, they want to defederate from “libs”, by which they actually mean anyone that is not both ML and anti-west.

    As long as big tech can meet the needs of people, they will keep using their services.

    Except that, because of network effet, people will keep using the service no matter how bad it becomes, as long as it keep a few basic functionalities? I use Facebook, not because I like the way it is, but because:

    • all my IRL friends are there
    • some job announcements appear only there

    What is implied in your message is that is people keep using the service, it means it is a good one, as if there were no other constraints. How is this not an apology of capitalism?

    The majority of the people don’t have any problem with this, why should they change their ways because some nerds decided that making a facebook account is a sin?

    The majority of people don’t see a problem in capitalism either, does it mean one should stop advocating against it.

    Facebook is a company that harvests users’ data and attention, under the hood of some social networking capabilities. Having a facebook account is not a sin, but it is exposing oneself to that, as well as pressuring one’s friends into doing the same, as I mentioned above. Federation aims at providing alternative for that.

    (e.g., ads; users want as little as possible, big tech wants the maximum). If you want to solve the problems of users, you should first figure out irreconcilable contradictions like this

    The fact that all successful big tech apps have ads is not because nobody had the idea of providing alternatives that are lighter in ads. It is because at some point they reached such a big size that network effect would be sufficient to keep users there anyway. Is your solution to that just hoping that someday one platform will be created that will be free of ads even when it reaches such sizes?

    Federation aims at that, by allowing to build a big network without a single person being able to impose marketing choices over the whole network