Lot’s of questions,

First you ask why post it, if they dont want their message read by others. It is posted for the self, if one is to talk you are not guaranteed an audience. However by throwing your 2 cents in, you did your part and can move on. If others can read it, then they are worthy. This is how all of communication works, the yoda effect. You can speak, others can hear, and few can understand.

Second, how is it improper use of the thorn? As it fell out of normative use, how is proper decided if there is no proper normal? It makes the th sound and it replaces the th pairing, it made enough sense to be understood. So it seems proper to me, but I am stumped at finding how it can’t.

Genuinely asking as I am trying to rewrite math using the alphabet and then rewrite spelling using bagua.

Lucifer existed before but didn’t become entangled with Satan until after christianity had roots. So it is a post biblical merge, but pre-biblical. The concept is older, the merge changed the focus of the concept.(69 is just number, until it becomes a joke as well.)

Satan and more properly the ‘Devil’ as is the main concept in modernity. This is due to the romans using this translation preferably from the Greeks. The devil then got most of their iconography from Pan and some roman art traditions. This is far more important than people realize. Anyways, all this was forming in the roman zeitgeist while Christianity was not canonical to the empire yet.

Oh absolutely, it’s power which allows laziness and comforts. In communism those in office are not the labor force ans can control the flow of money. Comfort.

Same issues arise with capitalism since money allows these sames comfort and once you’re rich enough they won’t let you be poor again.

You say you can’t see how and then explain exactly how.

They definitely do not mean the same thing that’s the same thing that happened to Nazis. They just were the biggest example of fascists on the world stage. A concept older than the Nazis. When Nazi is really more an ideology of hate wearing a façade.

The same party that is used to chastise ‘socialist’ beliefs when it wasn’t truly socialist. Words evolve and change, it’s why spreading a message is better than spreading a term. Whether or not you are right mattrrs very little when the person listening understands something different.

Help your neighbor and let them not go hungry - least we can do is spread our beliefs through our acts. I wish to raise the bottom line, and this will come at the detriment of my time, labor, and whatnot. This is why those with means would rather not sacrifice their comfort. Even when it’s just money.

I think of it as the food I must eat.

I am to hunger and I am to eat, I am to end something’s being in order for me to be.

Best I can do is reduce the damage I induce. Eat just enough and waste little. Regardless I did an evil and now that something is no more.

I must have reverence for the harm I induce. To apply this into politics, harm will always happen - best you can do is fixate on the interests that are dire and do your part to reduce the harm in other avenues. The world is so interconnected, that almost every action has a negative - we are often just oblivious for we can only see our part.

On a historical aspect, it does sound a bit sane. Both were used to justify similar regimes that strangled the people.

Communism can be seen as fascism by lucky liberals who dont understand we share this earth and have responsibilities to our neighbor. Communism ‘removes’ autonomy by making it a group effort and reducing the power of money which lets people have a degree of separation from the work and people.

Not that I agree, but people see communism as the real world attempts and not the philosophy. This is very apparent when you realize those anti communism in America tend to be Christian.

Jesus being a dude who provided free health care, food, and assistance to his neighbor. Just communist philosophy to the max. However they prefer the philosophy that he died so that we can keep sinning and would rather kill their brother than share the bread.

Oh I agree completely, it’s how I got into drawing as a kid. It’s why I am so passionate about this, I do not want the world that I currently know to change. I have my lust in one and my love in the same, life is well and it is decaying far before I became aware. Now I make up for lost time.

I even wrote a poem for my kids about how intertwined the birds and the bees are with the self. Sex is natural but it can become corrupted. That is why it annoys me for blaming one thing, these people can only get defensive as their ego is larger than their reading comprehension. I blame not sex, I blame the culture.

I mentioned 4chan because I noticed trends in thread behaviors and topics on /gif/ their porn subreddit from around 2014 to now. The site known for overflowing gay/trans, cuck and blacked threads suddenly has a huge bias towards white male superiority. This was always true in discussions but it massively shifted the titles to being very conformative. I see it as a tool being used to get people emotional. Before 2024 it was genuinely nothing but threads focusing on black male superiority and cuckolding.

These trends suggest to me a way of creating biases internally. Make someone angry at a certain demographic without really doing anything but changing their porn feeds. Since it’s basically the uncensored tiktok. They gave them an easy ethnic group to blame for the cuck/blacked/lgbt threads, the same rhetoric used in ww2. (Not to say I support any of their current actions in the strip) I can at least admit that it made me have preconceived notions and fear, created a huge distrust issue. This is why I think the fappening and pepe news were more just publicity for the site and then activation respectively. Call someone racist when theyre not and they might give up on trying to not be. People get whittled down and beat, it becomes easier to succumb to bad ideology because it is inherently reductive and simpler.

Yeah them being gooners is not an issue, but it’s the lack of voting and devolution that becomes an issue. For me I found that porn will eventually bore and you will seek new extremes within it, it’s how the same guys on 4chan constantly share stories about craving dick and then regretting it. Boredom and men are whores usually, easier than actually trying. It is a craving for intimacy misconstrued. (Not saying anything about lgbt folks, just about 4chan degens)

So as they devolve they can channel their hate and blame. One of the easiest ways is to vote against those they hate, not realizing they vote against themselves too. Vote for their benefit and it is your benefit. However, they can only see what they lack and not what they have to lose. They are the same losers in military cosplay bullying civilians(the waters below freezing), power feeds their lust. Little lapdogs not realizing the kennel they put themselves in. The kennel they will build around every person.

I mean most of this came from my own interests rather than actual scripture. It just clicks in my head because it seems obvious. What doesn’t apply is my assumption that others can understand simplicity, hence why my responses are in depth.

Fasting is done routinely as a dopamine reset and allows you to realign your interests agnostic of chemical influence. Driven by sheer self. This is in islam, variances of these fasts exists in all religions as you give up indulgences to remember your humanity and not your wants.

I once heard a therapist say the best way to check if you have a weed problem is to stop for 2 months. If you can or can’t, then you know. It’s true of most things.

The demon exorcism story of Jesus and Legion. He drives out the ‘demon’ (which are artisfically rendered as some horrific entity, while just being state of minds/mental instabilities - hence why early christians were called Therapeutae, or therapist) He casts it from the man into the pigs who in a horde rush the waters and drown.

The name Legion is a way of making commentary about the current political powers oppressing people and forcing this form of self-censorship. How illegal immigrants cannot openly talk about their issues while being just as equal humans, hence needing to strip their rights and fear monger.

Anyways Legion is a pseudonym for the Legionnaires which were the Roman military fleet and the primary antagonistic actors and the pigs are a mockery of them. How those who trust them are killing themselves. Kinda like those who vote for certain political parties to have oppressive power.

Jesus can’t save you but the people can save themselves. There’s lots of artistic flare - it’s mesmerizing to decipher.

Rapture just speaks about a social collapse. The same one in exodus, with the Romans, with Muhammad and so forth. That’s why it is a fine balance of moderation between indulgence and reverence. Swing one way or the other too heavy and a collapse happens.

The buddhist middle way.

I forget nothing, it is natural and that is why I am arguing against overindulgences and not the basic principle. Then again you can only see materiality in the context of god because your inner self is so small.

I am saying that overindulgence and fixation in lust becomes a prison. Why?

Look at marketing and media, it becomes a distraction for people and their vested interest. Intentionally meant only to distract and detract, afterwards one can lead you anywhere. Even to stagnate when look at waves at all current fascist developments but if you are so well versed then you know the Christian narrative is deeply against it. We literally get the fascist pig insult from the demon Legion, a commentary on the brainwashing the Legionnaires/Rome as a state pushed unto their citizens via fear and deprivation.

Only difference is now the person willingly goes to it because they wanna see some fat titties online with no effort, so when they try and fail to get real fat titties - they become angered at the disullusionment and blame the person rather than their own ineptitude. Division is good for those in power.

Lust is only called an invader or offender in your words. I call the culture that constantly pushes this into media and marketing as detrimental. Along with how easy it becomes for kids who are alone, with 2 working parents who can hardly raise a kid, they will fall into sheol and toss away years because it is immediately rewarding in their brains.

Let me make the example clear. Sugar is good for you, it is the most easily bio-available form of food for your cell. Protein needs energy to digest and fat is not soluble alone nor immediately usable. So it is a great thing, it even feeds your gut biome!

Now how can it bdcome bad? Over indulgence. Sugar causes a dopamine hit, kids bored at home regularly snack and eat a lot. If not some countries (you know the one) add sugar to their breads, peanut butter, and almost anything else. Why? Addictive and makes it taste better, it’s why medicines go down easier with a spoon of sugar or however the saying goes. Well, this bombardment of sugar overfloods your dopamine receptors, raising the levels of dopamine they need to actually trigger joyous feelings.

It is inherently harder to feel happy, not a good thing. Even though sugar is a good thing.

Sex is fine, lust is fine, it is the overindulgence and ineptitude that is wrong with incel culture. They are gooners who blame others and take no responsibility nor do in moderation. They feel only rage.

Explaining this made me realize it also feeds into that cycle, as it is a big factor. I would jork my shit until I was shooting dust and aching, but kept going. I was massively overweight and had diabetes, both kinds. I was killing my pancreas and building a resistance to insulin. Why does it feed into it? If you are unhappy, jorking it gives you a fleeting and immediate controlled dose of happiness when you are a depressed sack of shit like I was.

Exactly, and the material prison I speak of with lust is this mental state with the incels. Surround someone with nothing but sex that is purposely meant to sell you something and dxploit your basic animal desires, you create a situation in which you make it easy for incels to form.

Incels forming in large clusters supports and pupports these bad habits of each other, then enabling the behavior further. In turn also normalizing and trivializing it as a subject matter.

You for some reason are making this about you and other normal people who have the cognicent ability to be rational. The issue isn’t you nor is it video games or any one thing specifically. It is the bombardment that exists in marketing which in turn leads to the media as well being overblown with it to sell. My argument essentially is the same as sugar that the rest of the world would criticize America with.

You put sugar in everything. It is causing a dopamine constant release, in turn raising the bar for it to actually make you happy. Hence, most people with sugar overload have a harder time finding joy. Most people don’t reslly understand the biochemical response to things we ingest, and much of it is the same with porn.

If an incel ever actually had sex with a woman he didn’t pay, he would realize how starkly different reality is. That porn is edited and made perfect with angles that cant really be matched and is a completely different experience. They don’t enjoy sex or jerking off as much as they enjoy the momentary disullusionment with their reality.

Video games just have a bigger influence with porn fixation due to it allowing direct 3D models and translation into SFM or blender animations. Along with it being fully fictional and having the same effect as hentai, being fully digital allows full control about what is and isnt. Losing the flaws of reality that make it beautiful. There is a reason hentai is more popular with kids, just how games are.

Sex is great but this glorification and marketive exploitation is not that. I don’t know why you felt the need to involve any gods in the dialogue of human pitfalls due to corporate gain and political actualization. It’s almost as if the same group who I blame for facilitating, and using, the issue to their benefit are the same followers of the name you invoked. I wonder(the answer is yes) if they have made outcries and dogwhistles that specifically speak to these folks.

Anyways if you do not like the god that is, make a god that isnt.

Oh absolutely, I am a huge gooner. Had 12tb in an organized server with sections and whatnot. /r/playitfortheplot is legit just a bunch of gooners who give no shits but for sex and often miss the point of games.

A dude literally called Nier Automata a gooner game. Like bro it is one of the deepest games about what it means to be human. Sacrifice and duty. Yet the dude only saw tits and cared not at all for the narrative or reason. Mindless ghouls.

I never disagree with that, it should exist and should be allowed. However, it flows abundantly and becomes the primary reason for a lot of gamers.

At least in the past it took some effort to mod as they followed some form of decorum. Allow the nudity and it changes no difference.

Yes, lust is a material prison to gooners. It literally is how we get the incel problem who feel they are mandated sex for being male yet understand little about actual social situation.

Not because of games, but because they are facilitated to get that release and enjoyment constantly with little to no trouble. Specially vulnerable are the young who suffer from a lack of understading for the higher value in self control and moderation.

Then again, you focus on video games and not the culture spoken of. Get defensive if you want, I can at least acknowledge my own pitfalls and spread the awareness I was made of aware of through my own tribulations with this. What I see develop online further and grosses me out as it was a culture I participated in and now I see the harm.

You speaking of the culture around is really important. That culture is part of the coomer and gooner problem which seems innocent and harmless/inoffensive to others but it is much more insidious. It essentially creates less of an actual reason to interact and a false sense of body expectations.

Essentially the otaku/neet problem japan is facing. People don’t know how to interact with the opposite gender and when they do, they do so with their sexual interest as the prominent reason. Most people innately reject this forwardness based on appearances and the rejected will not understand how it is their fault they got rejected. There is little to no decorum or respect.

It’s essentially a self feeding, lust-driven antisocial cycle that creates angry and dejected incels. It feeds into the other frustrations and creates a very spiteful and resentful person. I personally believe this is intentional after observing 4chan trends, as it creates easy people to manipulate. (Fappening grand invitation on Fox news, then the pepe dogwhistle to embolden those who are racist, while outraging those miscontrued - which eventually just is embraced)

Extreme emotions create easy to predict reactions, just point them at the person you want them to blame.

It’s not innately videos games or media, but creating an entire culture that completely surrounds them does. Lust is one of those material prisons that is naturally inclined as it gives you good feelings. The internet overall has allowed kids to get endulged into this culture without any real risk or entry cost, long before they are of adequate age to understand the intimacy of reality.

I was about to compliment you for indulging me in such rich conversation, whether we agree or not. However, I was a bit insulted by the LLM comment. The last statement is moreso that early scientific developments used Jesus as a philosopher stone. Essentially just a symbol to represent whatever is unknown but is the goal/process. A variable in your formulas for whatever you needed. Not transformative or active, more as a way to change perspective and allow something to temporarily take place. It was used by people of the classical near east to middle east, who were the main developers of olden alchemy. Which later subdivided into many facets of science.

The fact that you imagined a car further proves my point. My point was not to convey a train, but rather that your brain fills in the gap. No car was uttered or written, yet you created that thought out of thin air. Yes it needs past experiences to formulate anyrhing but that just speaks to the interconnectivity of all.

As per your question of how energy exists in a world without matter, that I cannot really explain. That’s just the assumed best working theory when talking about the big bang. As scientists are also just assuming, we have no verifying abilities beyond the cosmic background. Which is just radiation we can observe using tools.

The rest of the questions are answered by my last paragraph. Energy without matter is assumed to be the primordial state, in which a huge energy release happened. This being the big bang. It can be seen and measured with tools, though our observations are not of the beginning but somewhere 300k years later. (Which btw 0k is literally the acknowledgement of zero heat energy, a mistake in your earlier comment. As cold is merely the absence.) For how it formed I cannot really fathom, it becomes easier for me to explain the big bang as the death of something grander.

So as to how it formed? Well that’s up to scientists, but for me I assume a God-like entity died and in his wake that cataclysmic energy was released. However, you are so keen to not believe so it feels moot to even elaborate. Please do not confuse this hypothetically true form of god with my earlier distinction of god within. Which the internal god is moreso a translation error over the centuries, so forth and so forth.

This internal god is just good miscontrued. It is a truth of the soul, as you age you will shed certain aspects you will become disgusted by and maybe even mortified. He who is victim would wish not to make others as well. This self control is not a natural occurrence and comes from social structures. As innately good and evil do not exist, it is only when a second being is introduced that these limitations and jurisdictions form. This is why homogeny would be the end result, however with so many perspectives the definitive good is frustratingly difficult to ever even fathom trying to quantify.

I implore you, if you take anything from this conversation let it not be god for it is not my goal. God in traditional terms does exist, it is the material lord over your current domain. (Usually a ladder parents, landlord, alderman, mayor, and so forth) Let it be instead imagination and potential that you take from this - it is the only free thing we have. It is how we as people manifest something from nothing, AKA art.

Material focus is just hell, or the place you reside. Taken from Hellas(Greece). It is the same namesake for the Hellenistic period. Imagination let’s you exist in an immaterial sense that is definitely bound by material, but expressed internally outside of the observable material but can be extrapolated. This self expression is called the liberal arts because it frees you. Ironically art itself is not part of the original quadrivium or trivium for which we get the name of liberal arts.

Anyways, again thank you for letting me ramble on about my interests. Your points have been very valid and you have been very patient with me, a rarity amongst the internet. This was truly a delight to indulge. Have a wonderful day - make it creative

The immaterial cannot be moved. If you move the neurons that currently have a ‘stored’ response to another, it doesn’t just simply work.

You can transcribe into writing/programing/etc and make a cheap copy that doesn’t completely encapsulate everything. Just as our text is tiny upon the scope of what we speak. Just as moving the bits that hold data corrupts wherever you move them, the structure around it is not made with that in mind. It’s why we usually tell the computer to do it for us via commands or gui.

Writing itself can transfer immaterial concepts that while definitely based on material perception, it is intangible without.

Imagine Jeff is going 80mph.

I do not know what your brain imagines but to me I imagine a >!train!< from that sentence, yet none was mentioned. While it was my material experience that gave me this concept, it was immaterially conveyed. However, we disagree on definitions so that is a difficulty. While I believe energy itself to be immaterial, it is materially bound due to needing a catalyst for perception and for which to act upon. My reasoning is that energy existed long before matter did. Matter being the death of energy in my interpretation.

God for example is the material truth that is immaterially incomprehensible until you face it. People are stripped of their material desire and when bare like this, man becomes homogeneous with each other while not needing to be inherently told. It is the experience that is so similarly frightening that it causes us to want to cease. Immaterial for it is not one thing but rather the concept, which becomes material once perceived. Hence, the immaterial is bound to material only by our observations.

Thank you, this conversation has let me further expand my theory of science and religion connection. As most scientific understanding inherently goes through christian lenses - since most foundations came from alchemy post Jesus as a philosopher stone. This lets me connect quantum mechanics into the relativity.

So if time is material please explain it, it is a consequence of materiality because it can be observe. It exists in the human domain and there is a special connection with the immaterial because we as people can convert thought into material perception.

You are misunderstanding me. I do agree that it is all material however it is also immaterial. The concept itself is not the material, it is why you can’t just move one to the other. Immaterial concepts like time which can be influenced by matter and gravity implies they are not intrinsically material - your own explanation even says we move through it. Yet you cannot explain what it is, it is only our perception of time that makes it material in understanding, but immaterial in existence.

You see everything through a human lens and not through that of nothingness.

If everything dies and it all rots away, immateriality still exists. If one is to exist, so is the other. The third is a medium state in which one can carry the other. I do not speak of humans being special yet your own grandiosity speaks as such.

The immaterial is just that, not material. The material is just that. When you shine a light, you cast a shadow. The immaterial is what can be interpreted and the material is what is.

To put it simply if the material is what you can see and feel, yes the immaterial can be stored in material but it is not as direct as you say. It’s about as encrypted and hashed as any password. It can’t be directly extracted, nor can it be moved and receive the same results.

So while material is intertwined at times with the immaterial, it is not always so. The immaterial exists regardless and we as people do have one ability that makes us special. Writing. This allows us to create immaterial realms like the past or fiction. Babylon that no longer is but once was material is translated into a different form, so the concept exists immaterial - agnostic of material form. Whether it is written or not, it happened and it is gone. Sheol or Kali depending on your want, but it’s a concept so true that it is perceived and made material.

The person breathes and utters god, yet no god has ever breathed.

The person lives and yet no god has ever lived.

My point is that god as a concept exists with no material form. If you are to say all immateriality exists with material. Then by your evidence if the concept of god exists, is it the neurons making it exist, is that the body of god?

It is the person who breathes into it life. As a material object it is not, it can be written and spoken and traverse the material. Yet wholely it remains in the immaterial domain of man, imperceivable by any other being. It is immaterial for the dogs cannot listen and they cannot fathom.

To say time is a coordinate is to map something immaterial as well, time passed and yet nothing changed. Time flows, yet nothing makes it move.

Rene discovered rebirth.

I think you are completely disregarding the existence of the third state.

While the brain is material, it is not just. You say to maintain integrity with our perception but you refuse the first acknowledgement of Rene Descartes. The dude essentially discovered his namesake.

Material, immaterial, and both. Before we get into the nonsenses of Hubbard, when I say both it is a temporary and fleeting state. The material is the vessel for the immaterial. The immaterial can exist devoid. Death for example is a constant and is completely immaterial yet as a concept we can allocate it to anything, even that which has no life. Remember the past is gone and the future is an illusion, because they are completely internalized immaterial states of being. Facilitated by your body but ultimately designed by things ultimately no longer material in a whole sense.

You get deep enough into this and you’ll have to bring up the ship of Theseus as this whole subject would relate to our definition of an item being, not being, or partly being. You are still you even if materially you are not the same. Yet your mind never stopped, never did it notice the change until it had already been done.

The material decays, the immaterial continues changing but locked in form. For example god has no physical domain indetifiable yet it keeps breathing. With no matter to speak of?

Long winded way of saying materiality is fleeting and immateriality is all.