Ethical options?

Problems can be ongoing or increase in severity. Just because it’s been an issue for a while doesn’t mean it’s too late for change.

Also, some people don’t have the luxury to choose an ethical employer (if they even exist).

Who also have absolutely ZERO moral compass. Like literally don’t give two shits if they’re coding a piece of software going into a baby killing machines.

Taking the LSAT be like

I’m not necessarily disagreeing with you here, but thought I’d provide a counter argument.

A group of children are dying of a horrible, deadly disease that can only be cured with the bark from a specific tree. So we go into the forest and chop this tree down to save the children from an excruciating disease.

A squirrel had built its entire home in that tree. That tree was everything to the squirrel. Now the squirrel has nothing and will suffer because we chopped down its home.

How do we explain this to the squirrel? Well, we can’t. No matter how hard we try, we can’t explain why we needed to destroy its home. The squirrel is physically incapable of understanding.

Playing devils advocate here, perhaps the reason for the need for human suffering is so beyond our understanding and comprehension that we are just physically incapable of understanding. Maybe we’re just squirrels, and human suffering needs to happen for some greater purpose unbeknownst to us.

Ew

Yup. I’d feel bad for him if he wasn’t also ruining the lives of others as well. For that, I have zero empathy towards.

It’s not a conspiracy if it’s true haha

This would be funnier without the literal text explanation and giant red circle

I see what you’re getting at, but there are a few issues with your argument. The biggest problem is that it overgeneralizes MAGA supporters in a way that actually undermines the point it’s trying to make. Yeah, MAGA as a movement backs Trump and his policies, and many of those policies have been harmful to trans people. But saying every single MAGA supporter is inherently harmful to trans people just by association is a bit of a leap. Not all MAGA supporters are equally informed, engaged, or even fully on board with every single thing Trump does. Some people support him for economic reasons, immigration policy, or just because they feel alienated by mainstream politics (most of what I’ve seen from those I’ve met who “support MAGA”)…not necessarily because they have an issue with trans people. Acting like its a monolith where everyone in it is equally responsible for every policy oversimplifies things.

Also, the categorically factual claim doesn’t really hold up. There’s a difference between supporting Trumps policies and actively harming trans people. Yes, Trumps policies have been harmful, but does every MAGA supporter personally advocate for those policies? Do they all even know the specifics of them? Probably not. You could argue that passively supporting a movement that enacts harmful policies still contributes to harm, but that’s not the same as saying every individual supporter is personally out to get trans people.

At the end of the day, I get the frustration with MAGA as a movement. It pushes policies that hurt marginalized groups, and it’s going to wreck havoc on our standard of living. But treating every individual MAGA supporter as personally responsible for all of those policies flattens the complexity of why people support Trump in the first place. It’s totally fair to call out the movement, but it’s a stretch to claim that every person in it is harmful in the exact same way.

If we want to quash this movement , we need to really think about why people support it and identify root cause so we can quell it from the root instead of just attacking the surface. And a major component is going to be speaking with people’s elephants instead of their riders. We have to be the bigger people here and try to empathize even when it seems impossible. Attacking them just isn’t going to work. That’s just human nature for ya.

Anyway, thanks for commenting and taking the time to explain yourself. I hope this at least explains my position a bit better.

I’m sure if you polled the average American they would not agree that “America is better than the rest of the world “. Maybe 20-30 years ago that might have been true.

Yeah idk why you’re getting downvoted. A major part of the problem in my opinion is bucketing people and making huge generalizations based off the culture wars that the bourgeoisie has created to get us bickering amongst ourselves.

Oh boy…

My entire family had been skinned alive and I was made to watch it all. I was depressed and about to kill myself. But then I discovered Groove Life™. The first time I put them on, I felt a spiritual presence enter my heart. This presence whispered “Make sure you tell your friends and family that Groove Life™ are now 15% off when purchased with Kohl’s Cash” and I have never felt the same since.

I’ll try and find the transcript when I get home from work, but it went something like this:

Investigator: Could you explain why there are allegations of abuse coming from your workers?

Tate: Oh they’re just saying all that stuff because they’re jealous of me (textbook case of projection; i.e. he is an incredibly jealous person, and so views the actions of others through his own lens; he has a very weak “frame of mind” if you will)

I remember it was full of stuff like this. Jealousy, envy, projection, playing the victim (at multiple points he literally expressed himself as the one who is being victimized by this whole situation), overcompensation, defensiveness…I mean you name it and it was there. You could take a psychology course in just this one interview with the investigator and you could learn quite a bit.

Edit: I should say too that I really struggle to have empathy for those who take their own suffering and promulgate it among those around them (the Tate’s for example). It demonstrates incredibly weak and poor character, and in my opinion (and with working with many, MANY people like this), it is almost impossible for them to get help. They almost never recognize themselves at fault (since they have a superiority complex), and so are incapable of taking that first step towards getting the necessary psychological support needed.

If they don’t want help, fine. Shove these types of people away from society so they don’t make it other people’s problems. They can fester in their own suffering for all I care, as long as it’s far away from others.

If it makes you any consolation, these people are absolutely miserable on the inside. I recently read a transcript of one of them speaking with an officer and I had to stop counting the amount of psychological red flags. They are suffering on the inside. I mean they need to be in jail too because their actions are affecting others too, but at least I can sleep at night knowing they’re fucking miserable.

It’s about power. At my last employer, they were making so much fucking money that they knowingly lost money on paying for these surveillance systems. They just enjoy the feeling of having total and complete control over our lives.

Why don’t you both have a nice day? 😤

Yeah those 48 hours don’t look too fun either though.

Feel awful for those affected.

Live and let live.