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Fighting capitalism by putting in state capitalism? That’s the dumbest take I’ve ever seen.
When you definitely understand what capitalism is and how it functions. Capitalism is a system where a handful of people own the means of production and exploit others to produce capital for themselves. Claiming that publicly owned means of production put towards improving the lives of the majority is the same thing shows stunning amounts of ignorance on the subject.
And to clarify, I’m all for taking the means of production, but only as long as it doesn’t turn authoritarian. And a state + hierarchies will always lead to that. Unless you aim for the same as I say, you aim to enslave me, just in a different system.
Nothing prevents implicit authority from arising in absence of formal power structures. In fact, that this leads to a worse situation since there are no explicit rules regarding who holds authority or why, nor are there mechanisms for recall of such individuals.
An example of such an implicit power structure would be the admins of the is the anarchism community on Lemmy. This group of people decides on the rules of the community and who is allowed to participate in it. Majority of the decisions this group makes are not voted on by the greater community, and most of the participants aren’t even aware of what decisions are made on their behalf.
In effect, this group holds implicit authority over the community. Research shows that people who exhibit psychopathic tendencies are likely to end up in leadership positions. So, it is highly likely that such individuals would rise organically to positions of power.
It seems to me that it’s better to accept the fact that human organizations tend to form into hierarchies and to create clear rules about responsibilities of individuals in positions of power as well how these individuals should be recalled when they transgress.
The alternative results in hierarchies forming implicitly with many members of the group not even being consciously aware of the fact that these hierarchies exist in the first place.
Anarchists are free to try and make their system work, but they can’t force others to subscribe to it. If anarchism isn’t able to deal with adversity and other competing systems then it’s not worth much in practice.
I dunno, if that’s the case then I don’t wanna live in this world any more and I’ll just kill myself. I don’t agree with doing things this way and I never will. I guess I’m just not made for this society and the society can fuck off.
That’s entirely a you problem. You can’t demand that other people follow your ideology any more than other people can force you to follow theirs.
No but it hurts me that you’d rather have me die than listen to my needs and allow me to be the way I am.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.
OK well fuck you fascist. Psychopath.
IT’s the same from the POV of the average person. They slave away their entire lives for no reason other than making some numbers go up. Whether it’s the company’s stock price or the state’s production and exports, it’s the same shit for the average joe.
And growing up in a place like that, I can tell you it was horrible. People being afraid of speaking against the state for fear of being sent to work camps, people never having the option to just quit their job…
How is that freedom? Honestly, it’s better in this system now because if you have some money you can take breaks sometimes. You couldn’t do that in my country under the old regime. If the old regime comes back i’ll just kill myself.
No, it’s not the same from the POV of the average person. In a socialist system they work in their own interest and they’re direct beneficiaries of the fruits of their labor. If you can’t even understand that then I don’t know what else to tell you.
And having grown up in USSR myself, I completely and utterly disagree with you.
I don’t care how it was for you in the USSR. For me and my family in Romania it was the worst thing. It’s not much better now but at least we’re not afraid to speak against the state and we can quit our jobs.
If you don’t care about freedrom that’s your prerogative. I wanna be free.
For most Romanians the current situation is much worse:
Again with the stats. I know people are poor and are suffering in Romania but stats are not showing the real every day life of people.
That’s literally what the stats show. Most people are worse off now in Romania and they know it. Of course, an ideologue like you doesn’t care about actual facts.