People are missing the real benefit here entirely.
No one has to go back to corporate social media (and no one should - in my opinion), but Meta’s new microblogging platform joining the fediverse means that you can consume content from their users without being on their platform. If even that is too much for you, then by all means, defederate from them, but frankly I don’t see the point other than as an ideological protest.
The fact is that fediverse data is already public, and Meta could (and probably is) already “scraping” it (though the word “scraping” doesn’t really apply with activity pub) for sale-able data, so the privacy concerns are moot. This change just means more content for the fediverse, more news media posting in a way we can access, and an easier transition for new folks.
Frankly, I see only upsides, though I know that’s an unpopular opinion on the fediverse
frankly I don’t see the point other than as an ideological protest
I don’t think it’s something to take that lightly. Problem is the EEE (embrace, extend, extinguish) that corporations are so good at realizing. The ActivityPub protocol the Fediverse is built on is public so anyone can use it. There’s nothing to stop corporations from using it however they want. They can exert influence on ActivityPub much has they have on public standards in the past. That doesn’t mean we should happily allow their profiteering to infiltrate our communities. It will destroy them.
Well, it’s obvious that any public data can be “harvested” by anyone, but with federation there’s also the thing that data gets replicated among all the federated platforms so that each server has actually a copy of that data on it.
I wouldn’t want my posts being stored on their server as a consequence of being federated with them.
you can consume content from their users without being on their platform
Wanting to avoid them and then go getting their content nonetheless, doesn’t seem very coherent to me.
People are missing the real benefit here entirely.
No one has to go back to corporate social media (and no one should - in my opinion), but Meta’s new microblogging platform joining the fediverse means that you can consume content from their users without being on their platform. If even that is too much for you, then by all means, defederate from them, but frankly I don’t see the point other than as an ideological protest.
The fact is that fediverse data is already public, and Meta could (and probably is) already “scraping” it (though the word “scraping” doesn’t really apply with activity pub) for sale-able data, so the privacy concerns are moot. This change just means more content for the fediverse, more news media posting in a way we can access, and an easier transition for new folks.
Frankly, I see only upsides, though I know that’s an unpopular opinion on the fediverse
I don’t think it’s something to take that lightly. Problem is the EEE (embrace, extend, extinguish) that corporations are so good at realizing. The ActivityPub protocol the Fediverse is built on is public so anyone can use it. There’s nothing to stop corporations from using it however they want. They can exert influence on ActivityPub much has they have on public standards in the past. That doesn’t mean we should happily allow their profiteering to infiltrate our communities. It will destroy them.
Well, it’s obvious that any public data can be “harvested” by anyone, but with federation there’s also the thing that data gets replicated among all the federated platforms so that each server has actually a copy of that data on it.
I wouldn’t want my posts being stored on their server as a consequence of being federated with them.
Wanting to avoid them and then go getting their content nonetheless, doesn’t seem very coherent to me.
That’s exactly how Embrace Extend Extinguish works.