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If you still use google services like google translate but with another front end, you still give google all the power. You don’t support an alternative and there never will be one, if you still use google.

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Same goes for Chromium.

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I agree. I support firefox.

What I do not know is which browser or engine is actually better? Because if chromium is actuall better wouldn’t it be benefitial (even for firefox) to fork it and just go their own ways after the fork? But as I said, I have not the expertise to judge that.

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If you fork Chromium, you’re subjected to all that it has coded before, after all you’ll use it as a base. Also, to the Chromium license.

Chromium is better than Firefox in some ways, but I think it’s less work to fork from Firefox, if you want a anti big tech alternative. Bromite is a Chromium fork that supposedly works for privacy, but I don’t know.

I use Pale Moon, which forks from Firefox 68. Still trying to make extensions work, but maybe it’s worth the extra work.

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The chromium licensing might be a problem. Bromite is good but it’s only on android and 1. I’d like to support firefox. I use mull.

What’s the advantage of pale moon? A very good pre hardened firefox fork is librewolf. All extensions work.

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I use Pale Moon because it’s somewhat popular, because it is an independent fork, and people who care about privacy seem to like it. I changed from Firefox because, with all the deals with Google, I don’t trust Mozilla/Firefox as an Open Source Project anymore. I want something developed by people who actually care about these things (privacy, freedom, etc.), not development bound by contracts with Big Tech.

GNU IceCat might be cool too.

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I think Startpage is a frontend for Google results (last time I tested, the results on the first page were the same). The only thing I’m not sure if it is dangerous to use it (I use DDG and if I can’t find anything, then I go with Startpage). @the_tech_beast@lemmy.ml is right, they are owned by an ads page now and the whole thing smells fishy.

Also, I recommend using the Privacy Redirect extension. Supports redirects from Twitter, YT, IG, GTranslate, Maps, Reddit, Wikipedia or any search you perform, to an alternative frontend

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I thought startpage was bought by an ad company

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Indeed. just edited the previous comment. Didn’t know about that.

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Thank you, didn’t know about that one. Need to test it to see if the local results are shown as expected (this is the main reason I have to rely on Google results)

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Safer Instagram frontend: https://bibliogram.art/

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https://madiator.com is also promising for Odysee

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Thanks for the effort! Sadly there is not a reddit alternative where I can log (similar to Slide or Infinity for Android).

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On mobile the buttons look squished together. On desktop it looks fine.

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Nice! Wasn’t aware of the privacy issues with Odysee Also, there is wikiless.org for wikipedia

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If you use a different front end you give an unknown identity your ip data. E.g. the piped website. I have no idea who that is. Why should I use that? He can insert any video he likes. It’s different from e.g. newpipe. With newpipe there is no other party involved than you and google. Yes, they could hide something in the code, but you can inspect it yourself.

Or for google translate, you still send the data to google. Maybe not the data when you write it, but as soon as you press enter, google will have that data. You should use an alternative, e.g. linguee, deepl. I’m not saying it’s perfect but it’s better than giving all your data to google, and it’s actually better than google.

The site is nested. Imo it wiuld be better to clean it.

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Google Alternatives

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  • deepl. Deepl is …

Youtube

  • newpipe. Blabla…
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Respect Piped, it dont use googlevideoAPI like any other front end do. It’s a OpenSource and selfhosted app, with 2 public instances https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped Respect a Deepl, its proprietary and freemium, free version is limited. The only valid FOSS translator i’ve found is the desktop app Tunlookup, but it’s only for Win and Mac, maybe in Linux with Wine (Linux version maybe later say dev). https://thephucit.github.io/tunlookup/ All other are very limited, buggy or paid apps.

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You can selfhost it, but what’s the point? Don’t you still get all the recommendations from google?

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Wasn’t that my point in the first place? You need to trust piped. If you selfhost, it’s just you

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Yes, it’s proprietary but there is no real foss alternative that is actually that good. I’ll have a look into tunlookup but if it’s only for win and mac it’s not that practicle. Everyone needs a solution, at least for android. Reducing the power of google is more important than foss/proprietary and linguee doesn’t abuse it’s power in the sense thst google does.

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The inbuild translator in Vivaldi is from Lingvanex, good for page translations. Tunlookup is a Desktop app, but work the same as an extension do, selected text apears in the translator when you open it with the fast keys or clicking in the icon. For me it works better than Deepl. I think the same, avoid Google is more important as FOSS or not, but is better use FOSS if it’s equal or better than proprietary apps. In Vivaldi I can view YT in it’s feed reader, which use it embedded anonymously, otherwise I use most Piped or the desktop client FreeTube, both use proxie.

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How do you know Newpipe does not proxy videos?

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