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Quite the opposite in my experience. r/linux was a very weird place lately with a lot of drama. They recently even got a mod banned by other mods.

r/linux_gaming on the other was has mostly stayed on focus. I learned a lot of useful things there. (latest was gamescope) It’s one of the last subs in reddit I still look at.

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I mostly agree, but I also have to say that people on there are very elitist - especially towards newcomers asking for help with problems that might seems trivial to people who know a bit more about it.

I honestly always thought the whole “Linux users think they’re better than everyone else” thing was just overplayed, but ever since I started using Linux (arch btw) and visiting those communities, I sadly have to whole-heartedly agree with it…

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I think it’s really only true in Arch communities. I too use Arch (btw), but would not touch an Arch community with a 10m pole. The Gaming on Linux community is by far the best I’ve been a part of.

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Because it often is very accessible already, just that people expect it to work the same way as Windows and assume that means accessibility when it really is just muscle memory from many years of using Windows.

Edit: Arch users are a tiny group… most people that do “arch elitism” actually don’t run vanilla Arch themselves and just do it for the lulz I think… since it has become some sort of meme.

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Windows power-users (usually gamers) are precisely the problem, normal users are perfectly fine with Linux. So this isn’t a counterpoint but a confirmation of the point I am trying to make?

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TBF CAP banned me for talking about a crypto project I had some adjacency too lol

r/linux is probably in a better place now

EDIT: and !linux@lemmy.ml apparently

r/linux was bad before with CAP, now is evil with pro Western politics bias

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-Any person asking for support, troubleshooting a problem let alone just reporting a bug gets down-voted to oblivion

Isn’t that every tech group ever?

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Genuine support requests usually don’t get down-voted. There is a bit of an expectation to do basic RTFM though.

What I think you mostly see is that posts from people get down-voted that expect Linux to be just like Windows and consider different behavior or focus to be “bugs”. It’s the typical Windows power-user issue, who expect Linux to be just a better Windows, but it simply isn’t that nor aims to be that.

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this ^

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Does your distro comes with a “fucking manual”? As long as we can’t have easy/accessible guides, i don’t consider RTFM to be a valid answer ;)

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Well RTFM is of course tongue in cheek, but I do consider a basic search on the distribution’s forum before asking the same question for the 100th time to be a valid requirement.

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I don’t disagree, but that argument is limited. First, because someone has to be the person asking on the forums: (at least) one person will have to go to great lengths to find the answer for what is not documented in advance. Second, because you don’t always have internet access to perform a search. Third, because documenting well-known quirks and patterns helps build a better understanding on how things fit together and what painpoints can be addressed as a project.

I was serious about my question. Apart from FreeBSD, do you know of a distro that comes with a comprehensive manual? I really like the Debian admin handbook but i believe it’s a shame this has to be done by “external” contributor (it’s not a core project to the distro) and certainly does not cover all parts of the system unfortunately.

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Any sufficiently large group will contain a similar percentage of assholes as the general population (which is high).

This is basically “regression to the mean” / “law of large numbers” and its why I think its best not to identify with any group

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Sorry for having fun

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