Lack of aggressive content moderation is the main selling point of the Fediverse to me.
The internet is becoming a place where a small number of companies decide what you are allowed to say (and what you are not allowed to say). The Fediverse is much less moderated.
I’m mostly here because it was somewhere to start a community with our own rules. Current platforms don’t enforce civility in any fashion, they simply state a set of ‘can’t break these rules’ and then do a bad job actually enforcing them. Given existing social structures that exist on most major platforms, it’s incredibly difficult to build a new mindset, so somewhere fresh was the ideal candidate.
We’re trying to flip the paradigm on its head by having much more generic rules like “be(e) nice” which involve less “follow the letter of the rule” and encourage more “follow the spirit of the rule”.
Good point! I think a lot of my irl contacts are only active on fb in part since fb friend generally are hostile to each other. Whereas lots of hostility on reddit
Fediverse sites often have cleaner UIs and load faster than traditional social media. And there’s none of that “create an account to view this post” or “this looks better in the app” stuff.
Also, traditional social media often makes changes that alienates users (because e.g. those changes prioritize profit over the happiness of most users, or because those changes are out of tune with what the users want). In fediverse social medias, this type of change happens less because the developers are often more in tune with their communities and don’t have as much of a profit incentive (and anyone can always create a fork if any changes are unbearably bad).
The big plus for me is that users have a choice, while still being able to participate in the network.
But please, no cryptocurrency in the fediverse! It creates a huge incentive to assign everything a monetary value and this destroys a lot of the value of the fediverse. It’s about human interactions and not about extracting value.
1 friend i was trying to convince to join the fedi specifically says he likes seeing ads bc he wouldn’t know what to buy otherwise (enables him to participate more into consumerism)
My former coworker pretty much said the same thing when I was complaining about targeted ads.
Its a really interesting boiling the frog scenario where if one plucked a human off the plains of africa 70 000 yrs ago and asked them “do you want some random human to know everything about you and convince you what to do with your life (zuckerberg could if he wanted to)” they’d say no, but now it like:
“there is no place better than this pot of boiling water”
i don’t have a better metaphor, but we’re beyond the boiling water stage. Like all the water has been boiled off and now people are just sunbathing on the searing pot directly.
It’s the burden of choice that conserism makes us carry; having too many choices leaves us in a state of anxiety. Too much consumerist “freedom” backfires and make its victims unable to utilize their rational mind to make decisions, so instead they rely on a non-human algorithm to make choices on their behalf.
also beng shapo once said that ~capitalism creates happiness bc we can order cheap products off amazon~. Not family, not relationships, not even dogs. Like bruh the proverb of “if you are is what you have, then who are you if what you have is lost?”
Atmosphere, culture, values, vibe --> the Fediverse feels like the early web. It is more personal, direct, more friendly generally, intimate. There’s community sense, a feel “to be in it together on an adventure”, a common quest to build something new, fresh, made by humans not corporations. Unspoilt by commercial shallowness. It is exciting. There’s opportunity and future.
I think that the federation approach allows more resilience against power outages (?). If one instance goes down for whatever reason, the rest are still up and running, instead of a global outage for the whole Fediverse.
Fedivangelism is a portmanteau of “fediverse” and “evangelism”.
The purpose of this community is to provide a space where those interested in seeing federated platforms succeed can collaborate to help grow the ecosystem.
If you’d like to participate more directly, join us on Discord or Matrix!
For me, the pro isn’t what they provide, but what they don’t (at least so far, in my limited experience) - celebrities and influencers.
“celebrities and influencers”
If the Fedis ever makes it big, I have some bad news for you
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I’m aware
Lack of aggressive content moderation is the main selling point of the Fediverse to me.
The internet is becoming a place where a small number of companies decide what you are allowed to say (and what you are not allowed to say). The Fediverse is much less moderated.
I’m mostly here because it was somewhere to start a community with our own rules. Current platforms don’t enforce civility in any fashion, they simply state a set of ‘can’t break these rules’ and then do a bad job actually enforcing them. Given existing social structures that exist on most major platforms, it’s incredibly difficult to build a new mindset, so somewhere fresh was the ideal candidate.
We’re trying to flip the paradigm on its head by having much more generic rules like “be(e) nice” which involve less “follow the letter of the rule” and encourage more “follow the spirit of the rule”.
Good point! I think a lot of my irl contacts are only active on fb in part since fb friend generally are hostile to each other. Whereas lots of hostility on reddit
Fediverse sites often have cleaner UIs and load faster than traditional social media. And there’s none of that “create an account to view this post” or “this looks better in the app” stuff.
Also, traditional social media often makes changes that alienates users (because e.g. those changes prioritize profit over the happiness of most users, or because those changes are out of tune with what the users want). In fediverse social medias, this type of change happens less because the developers are often more in tune with their communities and don’t have as much of a profit incentive (and anyone can always create a fork if any changes are unbearably bad).
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The moment a site or piece of software incorporates crypto bullshit, that’s the moment I dump it without ceremony or warning.
yeah probably better a parallel fork
The big plus for me is that users have a choice, while still being able to participate in the network.
But please, no cryptocurrency in the fediverse! It creates a huge incentive to assign everything a monetary value and this destroys a lot of the value of the fediverse. It’s about human interactions and not about extracting value.
My former coworker pretty much said the same thing when I was complaining about targeted ads.
Its a really interesting boiling the frog scenario where if one plucked a human off the plains of africa 70 000 yrs ago and asked them “do you want some random human to know everything about you and convince you what to do with your life (zuckerberg could if he wanted to)” they’d say no, but now it like:
“there is no place better than this pot of boiling water”
i don’t have a better metaphor, but we’re beyond the boiling water stage. Like all the water has been boiled off and now people are just sunbathing on the searing pot directly.
It’s the burden of choice that conserism makes us carry; having too many choices leaves us in a state of anxiety. Too much consumerist “freedom” backfires and make its victims unable to utilize their rational mind to make decisions, so instead they rely on a non-human algorithm to make choices on their behalf.
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also beng shapo once said that ~capitalism creates happiness bc we can order cheap products off amazon~. Not family, not relationships, not even dogs. Like bruh the proverb of “if you are is what you have, then who are you if what you have is lost?”
WTF?! That is the most insane thing I’ve ever heard. People really worship things and buying stuff like it’s some duty? What is wrong with them?
I would say that they should come here just to wash off the brainwashing but I’m afraid that if too many come, they’ll infect us instead.
Personalized advertising is truly today’s mythology.
But I do still see people who are annoyed by the high concentration of ads, like on instagram.
Atmosphere, culture, values, vibe --> the Fediverse feels like the early web. It is more personal, direct, more friendly generally, intimate. There’s community sense, a feel “to be in it together on an adventure”, a common quest to build something new, fresh, made by humans not corporations. Unspoilt by commercial shallowness. It is exciting. There’s opportunity and future.
I am surprised more people don’t try to personally brand their own pleroma/similar, specifically to bring commercial shallowness
Was trying to mention you on https://lemmy.perthchat.org/post/59859, but unable to tag people today.
Thank you! Note, that that list is slated to move to Delightful Club (a placeholder repo on GH will remain).
updated this to that post
The moderation is fragmented and more community oriented, instead of a thinly veiled advertising platform.
Oh yes, fedi is not skynet-controlled (by AI/algorithms)!
I think that the federation approach allows more resilience against power outages (?). If one instance goes down for whatever reason, the rest are still up and running, instead of a global outage for the whole Fediverse.
this would almost appeal to some irl friends, but things like facebook don’t go down enough
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