Instructions for running your own lemmy instance.

For the moment, lemmy.ml is using an explicit allowlist for instances we federate with. If you currently run an instance, and would like to be added to join.lemmy.ml:

  • Let us know either on !lemmy_instances, or commenting here.
  • We’ll add you to our allowlist.
  • Add this block to your server’s lemmy.hjson config (for open federation):
federation: {
  enabled: true
  tls_enabled: true
  # allowed_instances: lemmy.ml,other_instance.tld,... uncomment this to use an allowlist
}
  • Type !announcements@lemmy.ml into your server’s search box, and subscribe to it to connect the two instances.
@sgornick@lemmy.ml
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Maybe I’m missing a basic concept on Federation. I was assuming that the federation feature would allow a user on another instance (e.g., on Baraza.africa) to post on Lemmy.ml.

Here are two posts that Baraza.Africa shows as being posted to c/bitcoin: https://baraza.africa/c/bitcoin@lemmy.ml

However, on !bitcoin, those posts do not show. https://lemmy.ml/c/bitcoin/data_type/Post/sort/New/page/1

Is that correct, expected behavior?

Dessalines
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Not sure exactly what’s going on there, @nutomic@lemmy.ml any ideas?

@nutomic@lemmy.ml
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Could be that lemmy.ml was unreachable, and the activities didnt go through. Its supposed to retry sending in that case, but that was never actually tested.

Hiro
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thank you :3 <3

Hiro
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Hello :3 I made a new instance, mind adding it to the allowlist?

Dissonanz

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It’ll get added automatically the next time we deploy joinlemmy, which should be soon.

Lukas
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i made mentano.org

I could use some tips

th0mcat
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Lukas
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yeah but they have to whitelist me, no?

I’d like to federate my new instance with you :) lemmy.jdelcampo.eu running (sometimes) on a Rock64 !

dandelion
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Maybe good to post in /c/lemmy ? Are you using dynamic IP or does the site go off-line sometimes ?

The IP is dynamic and updated with nsupdate, via my OpenWrt router. But for now it’s mostly under heavy testing from my side (I want many services to be running on this Rock64), so it’s mostly offline for now.

i took a few months off from posting. I missed you all, and I’m glad to see new folks here. Congrats on the fruits of your labor comrades <3

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Good to have you back :smiling face:

congrats this is a huge milestone

Hey look, a user from another instance!

Bilb!
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Does it make sense to use a single-user instance like I do with pleroma? Probably not at this stage since it would require manual whitelisting, right?

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You could I guess, but it’d be a bit weird since lemmy is built around communities.

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In a hypothetical future world where there are many vibrant lemmy communities, a person with their own instance could participate in each without their identity being tied to an instance owned by someone else. You could also host a com related to a project you maintain that would be open to lemmy users form other instances, etc.

There is also the problem of having your federation choices made for you. If you use a federation instance with good moderation policies, they also likely do not federate with instances that do not. That’s perfectly understandable and I support any instance owner doing that, but I would prefer to make those choices myself.

At this point it might be premature, but maybe this is a use case you want someone kicking the tires on.

IngrownMink4☭
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This is awesome! Greetings from Lemmygrad.ml 😎👍

Vit
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Reddit killer, woo-hoo!

I think an allow list is the only acceptable way to do it. If you’re going to host some other site’s content, you should be sure you want to.

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I think by default most of the fediverse uses the blocklist method, which they can always remove offending content after the fact. We don’t want to start out this way, but after mod actions get federated correctly, that’ll be more a possibility.

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Is there a way to publicly see what instances are blocked by the way? I actually wouldn’t like a feature like that because someone could use it to seek out toxic instances.

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We don’t have blocked shown, just linked instances: https://lemmy.ml/instances

This is very good news! Have been looking forward to this for long time already.

But it’s seeming that some things aren’t working right (Maybe it’s transfer problems? New posts seem to be working fine).

For example, here the same post viewed from Lemmygrad:

and from “main” Lemmy:

Apparently the upvotes and some of the comments don’t show up when looking at it from Lemmygrad. This isn’t a single problem in only that post, you can look at !asklemmy@lemmy.ml for some more, or for example this post with no comments and 2 upvotes when viewing from Lemmygrad and 101 upvotes (and 32 downvotes lol) and lots and lots of comments when viewing from “main” Lemmy.

          

On another note, are there plans to make the search search across instances? At the moment, it seems to not find posts from another instance:

@nutomic@lemmy.ml
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The search is only local, but you can search the URL of a remote post/comment/user/community, and it will fetch that.

Helix
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does that still work? If so, how? Just entering it into the search box doesn’t seem to work (anymore) for me.

@nutomic@lemmy.ml
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Yes, if its not working then either that instance is not on the allowlist of your instance, or the remote instance is misconfigured.

@abbenm@lemmy.ml
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Awesome!

Regardless of whether it’s wanted or not, I bet this will be regarded as the flagship instance, and choices made for who gets on the allow list will serve to set a precedent that others may follow in how they decide to federate.

I’ve always said I thought the Nutomic did a great job setting the tone for what was and wasn’t expected/allowed here, and I think it carries on the very excellent standard set by other activitypub projects like Mastodon and Funkwhale in terms of not being open to toxicity. I think the allow list can help with that as well in terms of setting a standard.

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Great work getting to this point!

Two questions:

  1. How do I find federated content? I browse all but see only local posts.
  2. Can I browse remote communities somehow?
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  1. You can’t see the remote communities unless you go to that site and browse their community list. But after anyone on your instance has subscribed to it (you do that by typing in !community_name@instance.tld into your server’s search box, and subscribing), then those posts will show up in All.

We decided to make Local the default tho, because once this grows, there will likely be lots of spam in All just like mastodon. And of course you can set your default view to Subscribed, Local, or All in your user settings.

  1. Change your user settings to view All by default, or just click All on the front page to see federated posts.

Are there any plans to make it possible to browse a remote instance’s community list without going to their site? That would make finding and subscribing to remote communities much more convenient IMO.

That is excellent news! I think congratulations are required to the developers that made this possible :)

Edit: does that mean I can, say, log on to lemmy.ml with this account, or do I have to browse it from lemmygrad.ml?

@nutomic@lemmy.ml
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does that mean I can, say, log on to lemmy.ml with this account, or do I have to browse it from lemmygrad.ml?

No, but you can directly interact with posts and comments on lemmy.ml (like you are doing now). Check this:

https://lemmy.ml/post/42833

https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9334

That’s interesting. I see that I still do everything from Lemmygrad, including subscribing to federated communities or posting content there.

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