But I mean, Laurens Hof… And additionally, Mastodonians are not unfrequently exposed to Guppe groups, which work on the same mechanic.

As Flipboards Magazines do not easily map onto the structure that other fediverse platforms use. The closest analogue might be PeerTube’s Channels, which also don’t federate.

Has Laurens never heard of kbin?

“i am an instance admin/mod on the fediverse. by signing this pact, i hereby agree to block any instances owned by meta should they pop up on the fediverse. project92 is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity”

fedipact.online

• green checkmark = blocked
• pink heart = blocked, signed fedipact
• yellow exclamation mark = limited
• red cross = not blocked

• You can follow Threads accounts after clicking through a warning.

• People who don’t follow those same people won’t see their posts.

• You have to manually approve followers from Threads.

Basically, it puts Threads in quarantine, without cutting off all connections.

https://social.coop/@eloquence/111588877096843391

Oh lol they changed the interface. Just a day ago or so the colours were the opposite.

edit: proof

It’s important to note that XMPP is used no less than it was before Google messed around with it (I for one use it). It’s just that it was going to get mainstream when Google got into it, but then Google did Google things and killed the project, making it seem like Google killed the entirety of XMPP.

Tumblr’s plans, too, are met quite warmly, just as federation should be. Corporate players are very unlikely to destroy Fedi due to its distributed nature, and are generally going to improve reach and strengthen the trend of federated social networks. It’s just that people and admins simply don’t want to have anything to do with the absolute shit show that is Meta.

“i am an instance admin/mod on the fediverse. by signing this pact, i hereby agree to block any instances owned by meta should they pop up on the fediverse. project92 is a real and serious threat to the health and longevity of fedi and must be fought back against at every possible opportunity”

fedipact.online

Personally I’d never join such an instance, but I think it’s completely understandable for admins to do so since it makes moderation a lot more manageable.

Fair point, but they also have to please the EU, which won’t buy them creating a new protocol with two existing ones gaining major traction, of which one is w3c standard.

e: typo

Yes, for now. There is discussion to make it opt-out, which Eugen advocates for. Also, if it remains opt-in, very few people there actually have any reason to opt in, which is quite fishy because that means they are trying to keep their silo. Either way we should treat them with caution.

idk, the primary motivator is probably PR, but there is a chance that there’s still a trace, a glimmer of empathy and excitement for innovation, hidden way down somewhere in that human.

Don’t count on it, though.

I don’t think so. ActivityPub only fetches content if someone follows you, which you would have to manualy approve.

If you want to avoid the toxic crowd, I definitely recommend Beehaw.org. Their entire purpose is to build a community without the toxicity often seen on social media platforms. In fact, they have even defederated lemmy.world because they couldn’t control said crowd.

Look, I hate Meta as much as the next person, but they really don’t have that much leverage over the Fediverse as people are making it seem. It is completely optional to follow their accounts so they have little direct control over people’s feeds, not to mention that their active userbase is quite small. I’d say a better approach is simply restricting interaction by making it opt-in in all ways, just like social.coop.

Threads’ size will unaviodably disrupt the Fediverse if they federate fully, regardless their intentions. I think the appropriate approach is making interaction opt-in, like social.coop does: https://social.coop/@eloquence/111588877096843391

That said, there is a lot that can be done on a lot of platforms to give communities more of their own touch. Right now, most Fediverse platforms are currently very invested into the idea of complete decentralisation and treat other instances just like their own.

Half-centralisation measures like allowing microblogs to be unlisted outside the home instance or being able to hide a community from other instances’ All feeds, or even blocking outside users from posting in a community, would definitely be welcome. Point is the solution is not to keep the entire network small, but rather features encouraging interaction locally allowing for community building.

Well I’d really like you to elaborate. What prevents individual instances from being a nice environment even if it can connect to a giant network? On Lemmy for instance there are several instances with very nice local feeds and also on several microblogging instances there are strong internal communities. Just because the rest of the Fediverse is there doesn’t mean you have to see it all.

I know, I’m just emphasising on it, and its needlessness.