Didn’t they have a comic book series or something?

What? I’ve said yes twice now. What has that got to do with this? It’s not, and has not been, my question.

(Sorry - It’s a reference to my post history. You may need to turn on NSFW photos to get the joke, I know some clients block them by default.)

I’m all for the reason they wear them being exhibitionism (clearly) but that’s never been what I’ve said. They’re answering the question “are female beach vollyball players forced to wear bikinis”, an easy question to answer and one I’ve never asked; what I asked was “if they’re clearly a performance enhancement, why are the men not wearing them too?” which is a much more difficult thing to get an answer for.

That’s uh. Well, rather demonstrably wrong. On both points.

You said you were skeptical of two pieces being better for performance than other clothing.

Where did I say this? It has never been the question I asked, but it has been the one you’ve answered and I’ve repeatedly clarified that it was not my question. It would be nice if that was my question - indeed, I think it even requires far less than two minutes to find an answer to. But it’s not my question, nor has it at any point been.

Ah, my apologies - I did not realize someone had lept in for one comment.

And while abstractly interesting, those all continue to not address my thesis. They’re addressing yours quite well, though. I applaud you for having such a well supported thesis. I do invite insight on this - perhaps the journal of ergonomics would be a better place to start looking than Business Insider though.

My thesis statement here is that the female athletes who choose to wear bikinis are choosing to of their own free will, and whatever reasoning a person has to wear what they wear is their own business.

Ah, I see. Unfortunately for this conversation, it’s never been in question that since 2012 women’s beach volleyball players have had the option of several less-revealing outfits. So in light of that, could you please tell me why you felt it was appropriate earlier to insult me when your cited article was evidently provided entirely to address your own thesis, but did not in any way address mine?

I am aware they have options. That has never been in question. But, like your emphasis calls attention to, it’s important to have the freedom to choose what works best for you. So in the spirit of that, why are men not allowed the same freedom? Again, if it actually is a blanket improvement to a player’s performance like the above person implied, you’d think that men would have adopted a similar outfit.

That’s irrelevant.

No it’s not. Especially when the initial topic was male gaze.

and denied them because it actually harmed their performance, compared to the current standard.

The part I responded to by saying "Y’know if that were true and it actually did give an advantage, you’d think the men would be wearing something similar too. " Your link says absolutely nothing about it being a competitive advantage - did you respond to the wrong person?

Since 2012, yes I’m aware. But that does not address anything I said.

Y’know if that were true and it actually did give an advantage, you’d think the men would be wearing something similar too. You got a citation?

Washington Crossing the McDelaware

I sent her this thread and she’s asked me to tell you that she likes this so much she’s getting a “SQL is for Moms!” T-shirt printed.

So, wait, your theory is that ugly people are catching strays meant for Nazis?

Not exactly the most compelling conspiracy theory I’ve ever heard…

and absolutely game the system.

It’s still undetermined exactly how.

Well, I’m convinced. That’s absolutely conclusive. It just doesn’t make sense! I mean, it’s not like there’s any kind of immediately available evidence that your opinion of her isn’t anywhere close to the majority opinion or anything…

In the case of my mother, she’s pretty autistic and a very well known data scientist. This was her way of teaching me how she relates to the world - I’m quite grateful to her for it; it has given me a love of programming and allowed me get a great deal closer with her.

When I was a kid and my mother was teaching me to read SQL, she really drove home that Elegance is in the eye of the beholder. While a C++ dev finds beauty in reducing a signal processing step to O(n) by recursing through five lines of bitwise ingenuity, a SQL dev finds radiance in completing the task without using any loops at all.

Ah yes, “Science Hexagons”. Often the only distinguishing feature between Scifi anime and Magic anime.