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So there’s the idea of control being decentralised. But there’s also the idea of truth being decentralised - like different instances could disagree with each other. I would love to see how it would work in practice.


Anybody here any theories?

The statement from Mr Goldstein is pure gibberish. It sounds like he doesn’t know what’s going on either.


That’s just a perspective that could only make sense in a culture I’ve never met. In all the places I’ve ever lived, most people use most modes of transport - cars, bicycles, buses, trains, and foot. There are no “cardrivers” versus “pedestrians” versus “passengers” versus “cyclists”.

Sounds like you have bigger problems than just bike-lanes can solve.


It’s not so surprising that two different people have different experiences of the same thing.

There are many problems, but the major one in my area: The cycle lanes are always the rightmost lane. So cars turning right, they stay in the middle lane, then pull across the bike lane as they turn. Then you have cyclists in the right lane, going straight. The only near-accidents I commonly have are all because of this situation.

Before the bike lane were installed, cycling was much easier, with much fewer near-accidents.

It’s just an example. There are many ways that something that seems obvious and easy, it turns out to be complicated, or even counter-productive.


IIRC reddit has always worked fine. But if you try to create an account, it takes you down an endless wormhole of clicking on roadside features.

Twitter … who cares! nitter.net works perfectly.


That’s the 10% I’m talking about!

It sounds easy, until you walk a mile in their shoes. For many many people, you just need to use a car. For example, I know less than ten people on my road.

  • one has two children. Have you ever tried getting two children on a bike?
  • one is only able to get to the shops once a week, so she has to do huge weekly order that fills a car boot.
  • one needs a car just to get 50m down the road
  • one has family in a rural area who he needs to visit frequently

And these are people who live in an urban area, and (mostly) own and use bikes frequently already.

These are just examples from a very small sample size. Think how many other cases there are. You have to accommodate people who live differently from you.


It’s complicated. Often adding a cycle lane is disastrous for local cyclists. It’s a poorly understood issue, even IMO among road planners, because it’s not something you can explain in a 10 second soundbite.


Don’t forget about people who need to drive cars.

The old and weak, people with young (or many) children, people trying to carry a lot of shopping, people who have a long daily commute…

Don’t make life even more difficult for them.





Cool. II’ve noticed this, and I think people often go for the most expensive solution, with the idea that it must be the best one.

People think that the amount of stuff you built is a measure of how much work you’ve done.

It’s really striking when you look at people with engineering skills/training, they want to reduce things down to the simplest, most efficient form. But everyone else just wants to add more stuff onto the stack.

The people who end up in jobs with administrative power are rarely people with engineering skills.


It makes me think that the lemmy userbase is really very strange. Maybe I don’t notice because I’m strange too.

There must be a huge divide between popular interests and popular lemmy interests.

Not a good or a bad thing IMO. Might be a shock though for early users, once lemmy gets popular.


add an “all instances with the same language domain prefix” filter

was meant to solve that.

But TBH, this is the way the world is going. People are finding that sub-dividing things into categories is too limiting. Using tags works better. Why shouldn’t it be the case for filtering languages too?


The one thing i find very strange - people on lemmy aren’t posting about covid all the time. Everyone on reddit, in the news, and in real life, is talking >50% of the time about covid. But here, not a peep.


Tagging doesn’t sound like the right choice, like it would not work well. But I’ve learnt that nutomic’s plans (and yours) are usually more sophisticated than they first appear.

You’ve seen how wikipedia does it with subdomains - it’s a perfect solution.

But on second thoughts, that could be implemented very easily. You would need to make separate fr.lemmy.ml, pt.lemmy.ml… instances. The only code change needed - alongside the “subscribed local all” filters add an “all instances with the same language domain prefix” filter.

Tagging has many powerful uses. But we may not need to wait for tagging, just to get languages segregation.


This things are complicate dude

The dude abides.

from our perspective it is hard to see.

Yes it’s also hard to use examples from other times/places, because we can cherry pick, and anyway we never have the full context.

Have you ever tried to negotiate with an employer? Try saying “here are the wages and conditions I’m proposing. take it or leave it.” It’s the employer who has the power in the relationship, that he can do exactly that. Most of the time, it’s easy for an employer to replace employees, but it’s hard for an employee to find another job. Even worse - an employer being one man down is not a problem, but being unable to find a job, even for a short time, is a disaster.

That’s why employers can often negotiate new workers down to long hours, and down below a living wage.

There are other solutions to this problem apart from minimum wage - cooperatives, unions, etc. But min wage is the conventional one.

minimum wedge produce unemploiment

This is also an interesting and complicated issue. You could discuss for hours whether that’s true or if the opposite is true. IMO it can work either way, depending on the exact industry and economy you’re talking about.


Yes this one. But you can’t force this kind of thing. They will come spontaneously or they won’t.

The only thing we could possibly do is publicise lemmy better. It is too well hidden and unknown.

The other thing could be, thinking of communities that don’t already exist elsewhere and starting them here. Or finding communities that are becoming toxic on reddit and inviting the users over. No point trying to compete with already thriving subreddits.


There is one thing that none of the reddit-clones have -> languages.

Language-based sub-domains, just like wikipedia. The way reddit and lemmy do languages just isn’t sufficient.


There are different employment models, all have pros and cons. There is no one perfect solution, or if there is it’s certainly not communism.

The model of employment law you’re used to, employment as a market, it works most of the time. But it only works insist as there are strong legal protections for employees.

The employer has a much stronger bargaining position than the employee. You need to read some economics to see why. In a free market, employees get exploited. Is the past this has led to slave wages, malnourishment, etc.

The only defence the employee has is legal protections. He has a minimum wage so he won’t starve. He has maximum hours so he won’t be worked to death. But there are other spaces where he doesn’t have legal protections, so he will get exploited.

Thee argument here is about that.



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