I am so out of the loop, I don’t have any windows computers anymore which means I don’t get to try Windows 11. The last windows I used was Windows 10 years ago just after upgrading from Windows 7 and I didn’t like it.

  • do you have it already?
  • what are your thoughts?
  • did MS do well?
  • is it fast, does it feel lean or bulky

Maybe I should try it out just to get a feeling for it, I think without knowing what most people will use I can’t talk about alternatives with them.

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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Please people stop downvoting this. I also don’t like windows and closed-source software. But I want to get to know my opponent.

Sr Estegosaurio
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Agree, I really dislike nonfree software and Microsoft in concrete. But it’s important to keep an eye in what they do.

@eyeballkid@lemmy.ml
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I used it on a virtual machine when it was still being prepared by Microsoft. It ran well. I always install from scratch and typically only install MS office, so it felt roughly as lean as Windows 10 does.

Big problem: every computer in my house that was capable of running Windows 10 is flagged as not capable of running Windows 11, including virtual machines. All of them. There’s a huge hardware upgrade push this time around. TPM and Secure Boot settings are only part of it - there’s a minimum processor generation and I would also need to expand the virtual hard drive size of all of my virtual machines.

For my use case, it makes more sense to keep using Windows 10 for software that I need for my business and to focus on chipping away at that increasingly-small list. I’ll probably buy a new family laptop in a few years designed to run Windows 11. Everything else in the household will be strictly Debian/Arch-based by then.

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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Ah that’s interesting, a big push for new hardware. Probably for performance reasons? It’s sad since the older hardware could run a leaner OS totally fine

@eyeballkid@lemmy.ml
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Not for performance reasons, really. Windows 11 looks and feels a lot like Windows 10. There are plenty of processors that won’t be supported that can outperform a lot of processors that will be supported. It isn’t about pushing graphics or running high-performance software. The TPM and Secure Boot have to do with security and encryption. There are other ways to do encryption, but this is what Windows is choosing. The other requirements (generation-based chip cutoffs) seem to be largely arbitrary.

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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Ah I see

@eyeballkid@lemmy.ml
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None of this stuff matters if your plan is to buy a new computer that is designed to run Windows 11 from the beginning. I’m just chiming in as someone who tends to buy power-efficient computers and use them until they break down. The upgrade path is a bit murky this time around.

I could change some EFI settings, buy a wifi TPM dongle or two and change some registry settings to force Windows 11 to install on a few of my computers, but Microsoft is not guaranteeing to update computers that are on the edge of acceptability. I’d rather pare down my windows boxes and start fresh with a new one a few years from now.

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I haven’t and most likely won’t

@Zerush@lemmy.ml
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We always have WindowsFX ¬¬

Kohen Shaw
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How is this the first time I’m hearing of this distro? It is kind of unusual that they don’t seem to specify on their website what this distro is based on though

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Yes they do

See

https://www.windowsfx.org/index.php/home/about-windowsfx

and

https://www.windowsfx.org/index.php/release-news/software-licenses

It is essentially a skinned and modified Ubuntu LTS for compatibility withr EXE and MSI files, although with limitations. That is, it will be valid for normal use and not to scare too much users unaccustomed to Linux, but it has similar compatibility problems with MS like other distros using Wine.

For a Linux novice I would recommend before using Q4OS (Debian based), which with different skins can also be very similar in appearance and handling to Windows.

Anyway, WindowsFX is still better than this ReactOS, which has been trying to fork Windows XP for more than a decade (still in beta) and which serves as an insider joke for MS devs.

@TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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ReactOS has not copied one line from Windows source code. It is a clean room creation that allows Windows programs to run.

@Zerush@lemmy.ml
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Yes and no, it is also a product of a good part of reverse engineering that also does not work very well. I think that MS is going to release Windows XP as Open Source before, as it has already done with MSDOS, that ReactOS is going to work as it should. Besides, who today is going to want an imitation of Windows XP, without good compatibility with current applications? Browse with IE?

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It is something, even if it is barely above a hobby project in terms of end product.

@Zerush@lemmy.ml
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Agree, I think the same, like old MSDOS and other projects it may be interesting for people and devs who like to experiment or some educational purposes. A practical use I do not see in this.

Kohen Shaw
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Thanks for that, missed the parts where they were mentioning Ubuntu LTS while skimming through their about and license pages.

@Zerush@lemmy.ml
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There are others, which can give you the feeling of old Windows, like this one, also another one which may serve as a joke. Both are browserbased, put them in fullscreen to prank your friends.

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Don’t get the downvotes…

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No, I am still on Windows 10.

I will not update to windows 11

@VonMax@lemmy.ml
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Basically Windows 11 try to unify their setting panels further along, but they are still reliant on control panel and there are some update-ability issue at least 4 times in a row when I tried it, it results in BSOD. The biggest concern I have for Windows 11 was the fact that they’re pushing really hard for advertisement/bloats on the platform with Windows Store and Bing and Internet Edge. I really dislike the start menu placement in the middle of the screen and the lack of customization in general.

Because of those things, I have essentially written off Windows 11, because I’ve long since been using Linux for everyday things even for gaming, so it doesn’t affect me as much. They didn’t offer much on the table for the problems/griefs they cause with Windows 11.

Gaming-wise, it’s a little slower especially if you’re running Vulkan on Windows 11, I think it’s because of scheduling problem on 3990x CPU whereas it’s less of an issue on Linux.

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Try if GodMode works in W11, with this you have ALL possible settings in Windows in one List. It’s a own hidden feature in all Windows, but easy to activate.

Simply create a new folder and rename it:

GodMode.{ED7BA470-8E54-465E-825C-99712043E01C} (Copy paste this as is)

that is, the folder change its aspect and when you open it, you have a list, ordered by themes of all settings, even the most hidden ones.

@dragnucs@lemmy.ml
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I did not use it. I only have windows 10 on my $EMPLOYER provided laptop, which I don’t like too.

@Vera9@lemmy.ml
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NEVER!

Personally I may never need Windows in the future, I may never install it in my own devices. If college required me to use Zbrush which only works on Windows, I’d want to purpose Blender (seriously, Blender is good for sculpting as well, and industries are adopting Blender). I hate that education focuses on specific software, not creativity to self-adapt with any available software.

I do have the curiosity to use Windows 11, how it looks, how it feels. But it’s not enough to make me install it. So if a friend had it installed on their device, I may ask to try run around in it.

@law@lemmy.ml
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Beautiful interface and experimental support for mounting EXT4 inside WSL2 which seemed to have file permission problems for me.

@morrowind@lemmy.ml
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The biggest pull for windows 11 was the new store, and now we know for sure it’s coming to windows 10 reasonably soon, so I’m staying for now

@hello_lebbit@lemmy.ml
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Nah, windows 10 ltsc is where its at

@Zerush@lemmy.ml
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Maybe I think about it when W10 loses support in 2025, but I think I preferred to switch to a Linux distro before. It has cost me enough to de-telemetry and tune the W10, eliminating all the useless crap that it carries by default (to improve the user experience), so that it works now as it should, to go to an OS that takes up twice the space and is much slower, like the W11.

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My job is on POP OS and Fedora. We are suppose to do VMs for it in 2 weeks for some of the clients under us that still use Windows. So I’m looking forward to seeing what it’s about. At home I’m on POP OS and Twister OS.

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