I got banned from reddit (honestly feel a lot better without it)

But I miss being able to answer stupid questions and relationship questions.

Lemmy is great, but why aren’t there that many people on here? I don’t get it.

An I using my filters wrong or something?

Catraism-Stalinism
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All instances (mostly lemmy and lemmygrad) are experiencing a steady increase in usership.

TimothyMcFuck
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Is lemmy like or the same thing as mastodon? Like ok, I LOVED reddit. However there are so many crazy, Whitney, and totalitarian moderators who shut you down for defending your position or saying anything that goes against the echo chamber. I always had this ‘feeling’ of pressure to watch what I say. So at that point, it kills the experience. If I say you’re an ass kisser, I’m permanently banned? How can anyone last on there? The internet is the wild west, you should be able to say what you want

comfy
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Is lemmy like or the same thing as mastodon?

It’s a weird question. Like ‘are grapes like oranges’.

Mastodon is a federated (‘Fediverse’ due to use of ActivityPub protocol) microblogging (think twitter) software, same with Pleroma and some others. Admins can host their own website and set their own rules, those websites can interact with other sites.

Lemmy is also a federated (Fediverse) software, but it’s a link aggregator (think reddit). We’re on the lemmy.ml instance, which has its own topic and rules. There are some other ones that aim to be more liberal, and a few that try to be ‘free speech’, but are inevitably flooded by its own echo chamber of the kind of people other places don’t want around.

The internet is the wild west

Yes*. Although not each site on that net wants to be wild. If I’m having a serious discussion on a site where that’s expected (like a science topic forum), why should we tolerate someone with no idea what they’re talking about spamming unconstructive rambling about them hating us? So you inevitably do get communities and social circles that do make restrictions and enforce them in order to function, even on alleged ‘free speech’ sites. It’s all about finding the right sites, rather than expecting every site to have to listen to everything.

TimothyMcFuck
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that’s fair

@pingveno@lemmy.ml
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As one of the moderators on a subreddit with a tight, strongly enforced civility policy, it really is one of the few things keeping the sub from chaos. So much of political discourse these days is either in echo chambers or has degraded discourse. Sure you can say whatever, but the whatever slowly becomes worth less. We’ve been told by multiple users that the culture our rules foster has made it so that the users have a place to have serious political discussions with a broad range of people in a way that they haven’t in a long time. That’s important because many people have given up on political discussions with people who aren’t like-minded.

Alternatively, I’ll put it this way: it’s possible to thoroughly discuss a political matter without touching personal insults. When there is nothing stopping personal insults, Internet discussions tend to be “won” by the trolliest trolls and the loudest yellers, not the best ideas. The people with the best ideas give up as they get drowned out.

Catraism-Stalinism
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filter by All, but if you don’t like communism, do not do that

@mmhmm@lemmy.ml
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This should be posted on the main page; it would help resolve people’s culture shock after leaving walled media gardens

Catraism-Stalinism
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exactly

xenith
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More like if you dont like the 4 prolific posters’ personal take on communism. Lemmygrad gets so much hate because a few peoplewithj nothing better to do post 80% of the political content. Every collective (reddit) have their hive minds but Lemmygrad is like a small town church that prescribes exactly what you’re supposed to see and think. It’s pretty gross.

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Lemmygrad gets “hate” because we’re one of the most active instances and liberals cannot stand that communists are not only allowed to talk about communism, but that they actually get attention and activity. Deal with it.

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Maybe that’s why you hate it but my annoyance is more at people who reflexively feel they win every argument by calling the other person a liberal because they don’t believe that the CCP is a corruption-free bastion of good will and a perfect example for the world to follow.

You can be a communist and still legitimately criticize the CCP though you wouldn’t know it from the 4 people posting all the articles and leading every discussion at Lemmygrad

Ehh… I just realized I don’t care. I was thinking about how sad it is that people post so prolifically and emphatically to the same 15 people while believing that they’re making a difference and fighting the good fight. Then I realized that arguing with them is equally as pointless. I mean this is the biggest thread I’ve ever seen on Lemmy and it’s about why it’s so unsuccessful. If people want to have a tiny club where they dictate their specific flavor of communism and call everyone else is a liberal, go for it. I’d call it an echo chamber but it’s too small - echoes need some space to generate. Lemmygrad is tiny little groups of people congratulating each other on believing the exact same thing and being obnoxiously insufferable to anyone whose opinions only match 98%. You’re cosplay revolutionaries. You change nothing and inspire no one but you sure feel like badasses while regurgitating the same lines to each other.

I’m out

You don’t even know the actual name of the CPC and yet you have a strong opinion on it. Banger. Spoken like a true lib.

Also love that you call us not even fit to be an echo chamber yet we are as big and active as lemmy.ml, your instance. Your anticommunism is showing.

Ratette (she/her)
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Make sure to slam the door on your way out otherwise people might not notice your little tantrum 😊

I wish you wouldn’t leave and I wish you would care more. If you did care more you’d know that CCP is not their name and no one thinks CPC is free from corruption and they themselves know that corruption is a huge issue.

Ratette (she/her)
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On lemmy alone we have (not including the directly political and ML subs):

  • an anime memes sub
  • a 196 meme sub
  • music subs
  • gardening subs
  • paleo fauna
  • mental health sub
  • free chat
  • feminism
  • trans
  • veganism
  • General lgbt pride

And that’s just a selection of the ones I’m subbed to.

There’s so much variety and it only grows as people make them.

I remember your username getting banned for chatting shit and I bet this little “only 4 commenters” tirade you’re on is because those were the 4 who schooled you when you came in all anti-communist.

Plenty of people contribute and you lying and crying about it is pathetic. Your anti communism is showing and so is your ignorance to Marxism.

bkrl
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I leaved Google and Reddit in last two days. Continue my devalleyzation (Silicon Valley).

Cold Hotman
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Congratulations, keep up the good work. One day you’ll run a custom operating system on your phone and your own social network on the internet if you want. :D

@altair222@beehaw.org
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Just reading this gives me a happy rush

@averyfalken@lemmy.ml
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Yeah personally I have enjoyed grapheneos

TimothyMcFuck
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What Browser do you use now?

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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Firefox is best!

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Facts

And searx for searching.

Social media is “winner takes all”. People go to where other people are. It’s very hard to break out of that.

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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Also I think not having a huge amount of content is a drawback. Users are looking for that (including me).

TimothyMcFuck
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Yea dude same. Even when I sort by new, they are the same posts

Domoŝomo
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I sort by “top day”, that seems to work fairly well for me… but I’m not very active either.

For the same reason a lot of people prefer cities over towns.

@Akimoto@lemmy.ml
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Very nice analogy

@graphito@beehaw.org
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I hope at some point regular users like you would help us to churn out enough content for the whole day. So far, thank you for your post, don’t forget to explore other instances and global feed.

TimothyMcFuck
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Thank you. You made my day :'D I’m definitely going to

Cold Hotman
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Competition, reputation and federation. In essence, retention.

  1. Competition

There’s a ton of social news aggregators out there and most of them are much better at advertising their site than the entire lemmyverse together.

  1. Reputation

Lemmy has a reputation among many as a far left, for some - extremist platform. A large mastodon user that boosts accounts actively warned about Lemmy in a pretty bad way a while back. The other day a public representative for a company withdrew their community the same day they created it due to the public backlash.

  1. Federation

It’s difficult to grasp how federation, and particularly lemmy federation works for people unfamiliar with the concept. They might get a wrong impression of the lemmyverse after visiting just one instance, not realizing it’s only a part of it. Or they could be stuck on an instance with few posts that interests them.

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The other day a public representative for a company withdrew their community the same day they created it due to the public backlash.

This was probably Bitwarden on the Sopuli instance right? Could you perhaps share a link discussing this in detail?

@nachtigall@feddit.de
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we had to remove the Bitwarden instance for the time being, to review the flood of responses coming in to us from the community regarding information about the purpose behind Lemmy via the creators

What the heck? It’s free software and a specific detail about free software is that it may be used for any purpose regardless of the authors ideas. That’s some serious fucked up witch hunt.

Catraism-Stalinism
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Its all right! Thank you for getting this for me!

god some of them read like bots on that mastodon thread.

Sr Estegosaurio
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https://lemmy.ml/post/78808

I remember that post and ooof the cringe was hardcore. I don’t understand how people belived that shit.

Cold Hotman
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it may be used for any purpose regardless of the authors ideas.

To be honest, I haven’t seen the developers put any demands or anything on what people use it for. Just look at Wolfballs and how it’s on https://join-lemmy.org/instances despite their home server blocking them. I think that’s very respectable.

That’s some serious fucked up witch hunt.

I don’t think so. It’s just that a bad reputation lasts a long time, and the lemmy platform have had some rowdy representation for a while. Again, the developers have taken sensible steps when they started promoting Sopuli and Beehaw on the join-lemmy page, two seemingly wholesome instances that welcomes anyone.

Catraism-Stalinism
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what happened to them? I never heard about this.

vxnxnt
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Such a shame…

I was even excited to see them join a community as small as ours.

Cold Hotman
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I know, it really saddened me. We need to discuss these things, work together to change the federated culture and become attractive to new users. But it feels like everywhere I look, people either want to compete directly or they can’t see the big picture.

TimothyMcFuck
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wait What happened?

vxnxnt
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About a week ago Bitwarden created an official community on the instance sopuli. But now it seems the community has been removed by Bitwarden due to public backlash.

TimothyMcFuck
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Why

@altair222@beehaw.org
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If youre looking for a more general purpose instance, try out beehaw.org

TimothyMcFuck
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Wait, so lemmy is far left? Please tell me it’s not

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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It is, most innovation is made by people who want progression in the world.

@graphito@beehaw.org
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Lemmy is a software our instances are running on. Here are some instances:

Lemmygrad is far left, communist instance, expressing pro US, against Russia and pro Ukraine position will swiftly get you banned

Lenny.ml (where you are registered) is under strong influence of lemmygrad. Happens mostly with a little help of an admin who supports lemmygrad. Although it has fair share of non communists who are slowly realising my previous sentence.

Wolfballs is right wing instance.

Almost any other instance is much less directed towards politics, but ideologically either centrist, leftist or apolitical at all.

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Lenny.ml (where you are registered) is under strong influence of lemmygrad. Happens mostly with a little help of an admin who supports lemmygrad. Although it has fair share of non communists who are slowly realising my previous sentence.

Hello, lemmy.ml is explicitly leftist on it’s own terms.

Is your inaccuracy intentional?

Is your insistence on spreading anti-communism outside of your instance not at odds with your own rules on polite interaction?

Building an instance solely on being pissed at another instance for existing. They need to have us in their blocklist because they could not handle the backlash if they federated. That’s all there is to it.

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lmao yeah communists correcting the history of their movement is the exact same as a “free speech” instance that has to be trans-exclusionary to function right in their sidebar. Fuck off.

Lemmygrad is far left, communist instance, expressing pro US, against Russia and pro Ukraine position will swiftly get you banned

Post proof. Here’s our modlog: https://lemmygrad.ml/modlog

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What makes you suggest that an admin is the cause of the cross-influence? They’re, by far, the two biggest federated instances, and both explicitly “leftist” (which, in their context, means socialist). Of course there will be many users coming across and influencing the posts.

@graphito@beehaw.org
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Clearly pointing to this information will get me banned as it was the last time. So I’ll just invite you to take note of this possibility and keep your eyes open.

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removed by mod

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@graphito@beehaw.org
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Thank you for the correction, I respect that

Lmao you stand for nothing.

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  1. Lemmy is newer than Reddit. Reddit has been up for over 15 years.
  2. Lemmy is a Reddit clone but less well known, thus, whatever advantages it has over Reddit, you can pretty much assume anyone who comes to Lemmy is someone who was on Reddit and saw some reason to leave. Or even still uses Reddit but is trying their hand here too. At least for now.
  3. Thus, the Lemmy userbase will, at least within the near future, be a small subset of current or former Redditors.
@nachtigall@feddit.de
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Chicken or the egg problem. Many people want a lot of (quality) content and diverse content comes from many people.

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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We all were using reddit at some point without thinking about alternatives. Once thinking about alternatives, there are a lot of reddit alternatives out there.

TimothyMcFuck
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Which Ones

TimothyMcFuck
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thank you

Inkie
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Off the top of my head – There is also td-win and voat (which are like, Reddit for neo-nazis) and hexbear (which is like, Reddit for leftists who lack the social skills to be around even other leftists)

TimothyMcFuck
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Imma check both of this out thank you

There’s also Aether, which is a P2P reddit-like program, which will have a form of democracy for community mods when a community gets large enough.

TimothyMcFuck
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I checked it out and like it but there is no app

Ratette (she/her)
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I love how the people in this thread with the biggest issues with lemmygrad specifically are the people who got banned for bigotry or racism in some form when they came over and chatted shit.

@Poed_P@lemmy.ml
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Clarifying question: what do you consider a lot of people?

TimothyMcFuck
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I guess at least 200k

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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Do you know about mastodon? It’s not like reddit but it’s like twitter and it has way more than 200k users and uses the same protocol as lemmy!

TimothyMcFuck
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I actually made an account yesterday but there isn’t anything to follow. I don’t get it. What are the top communities on there?

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In my opinion, the UI doesn’t help. It just looks bad to my eyes. Everything is too big and screaming at me. I feel anxious when coming to this site, which sounds weird but ya…

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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have you tried different themes? I really like the lemmy look.

bkrl
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To be honest Reddit shows more tits and big asses than Lemmy. Maybe people have some issue to leave that Paradise. 🤭

TimothyMcFuck
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Is there porn on here too?

comfy
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lemmy.ml has a no-porn rule, I don’t know about the other ones but I haven’t seen a porn community yet.

@nachtigall@feddit.de
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Damn, we need an NSFW instance.

Cold Hotman
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I don’t mind a naughty instance, it’s easy to block. Just don’t start mixing regular content with NSFW on the same server, be it sexy or gory. It would be a nightmare to moderate federation for regular instances and it would be so much easier to just block the whole server.

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I don’t even think it would be too bad to mix it on a server since users have the possibilities to block whole communities (in contrast to servers which can only be done by admins for all users). Though I find your concern regarding moderation relatable. Maybe a feature for the admin panel would be nice where you can specify comminities/servers that are not shown in the All timeline or where all posts are marked as NSFW by default (if there is not such a feature yet)

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@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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porn isn’t illegal though?

Cold Hotman
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There is porn that is legal in one country but illegal in another. And there are people that don’t want to host porn on their servers for other reasons.

@nachtigall@feddit.de
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Afaik only text is replicated and images are only hosted at the server (more specifically the pictrs instance) where it was uploaded. However, I don’t know about the legal implications of linking to possibly illegal content.

Cold Hotman
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I never thought about that, seems sound to me. Thanks for pointing that out.

@sexy_peach@feddit.de
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but the same reasoning works for a lot of other content (about pirating, privacy, hacking tools etc).

Cold Hotman
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That’s true, and if an instance starts to share walkthroughs on how to i.e. create bombs or guns etc. every admin should question themselves if they should federate with the server.

TimothyMcFuck
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How would you make one? What exactly is an instance? I think a dm or chat room and voice chat room sound good to

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Instance is a website running Lemmy. Most of such websites connected with each other in such way so users can chat and see posts without reregistering on each separate instance. That’s how I (registered on beehaw.org) can see your posts and chat with you.

A loosely moderated place to ask open ended questions

If your post is

  1. Open ended
  2. Not offensive
  3. Not regarding lemmy support (c/lemmy_support)
  4. not ad nauseam inducing (please make sure its a question that would be new to most members)

it’s welcome here!

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  • 118 users / month
  • 480 users / 6 months
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