So, starting now, Google started mandating full JS for YT, effectively breaking all third-party clients and locking the site to their official client.

This reeks of DRM.

UPDATE: Installing Deno and installing yt-dlp through PyPi fixes yt-dlp but the very idea that Google is mandating JS to lock down YT in an attempt at pseudo-DRM is still crappy.

UPDATE #2: inv.nadeko.net is working again for now.

  • fedislug@lemmy.ml
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    God damn it Google. Moves like this are such an insult to the free and open net that made YouTube popular in the first place

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    invidious, yt-dlp, and freetube have broken so many times for me over the last 6 months, I’ve fallen out of the habit of using YT lately anyway.

    It sucks because there is content there that I want but I’m not going to whore myself for it.

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      Thank you! Ffs, I was just sitting here thinking, I am not paying ticketmaster a damn dime, even if I have to miss my childhood heroes before they die. People whore themselves out and it fucks all of society constantly. Can’t watch videos because of content monopoly, can’t see a concert without getting fucked on exorbitant fees, can’t go to the hospital because holy fuck, can’t go to school without crippling debt, can’t watch TV without supporting terrorists, etc. Like bloody hell the corpos have monopolized and ruined everything. They can go to hell. I’ll play my shitty guitar, sing to myself, do home surgery, and go outside or stare at a wall. Fuck this shit!

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        You still have alternative platforms to Big Tech though, PeerTube and Odysee like have been mentioned umpteen times in this thread and on Lemmy at large, and not to mention Lemmy itself, and Mastodon, Pixelfed, and Bsky among others.

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          Sure but they don’t have the content and don’t have staying power. If peertube became popular who is going to pay for the bandwidth.

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      I’m on iOS so my options are rather limited, but I’ve had decent luck using Brave. Is there anything that the others do that a browser wouldn’t?

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        Reminds me of when people say “product” instead of “shampoo” or “conditioner” or whatever it is they’re actually putting in their hair. Capitalism-coded language.

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    Slightly over dramatized. This happens basically every month or so. They break it, we fix it. For me newpipe and yt-dlp havent even stopped working despite not updating anything.

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      I’m relieved because I saw this post and assumed it meant in a more serious way than normal.

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      I doubt it. Bandwidth and storage costs for distributed video on the scale of YouTube isn’t going to happen without some kind of monetisation beyond stray donations.

      Places like Nebula have better operating models but they’re also very niche.

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    Needing a full JS engine to run on your user account for Youtube? What are the privacy and security implications here?

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      It’s probably more about control than security. Mandate JS, force people to watch their shit on their proprietary front-end.

      I bet ad blockers and even manually blocking related cookies in FF browsers are probably going to break the site and force Chromium browser use too.

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    I have a program for download yt stuff, will that also break being a full program or is it going to have the same flaw?

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          Tartube uses yt-dlp, until Google implements real DRM ala Widevine on YT, which I fully expect them to if they’re locking things down this drastically, I mentioned how you can get yt-dlp working again-for now.

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            I actually doubt it will go that far. They’re far more concerned with those precious ad views, and the slowdown from encrypting/decrypting every feed everywhere would almost certainly cause a noticeable downward trend in those ad views.

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              It’s Google, I wouldn’t trust them any further than I can throw their Pixel phones. They straight-up admitted recently to breaking the open web, they’ll do anything.

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                Fair enough. I mean, they’ll never not pay attention to whatever moves the money, of course. Brrr! Line most go up! But they’re so far up their own asses who really knows why they do what they do. Cause I’m pretty sure the only thing they’ve figured out is what their own farts smell like!

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    As of today at least, I can still download video/audio from YT on my android phone with NewPipe…